I've heard that labour laws in countries like Germany and Japan are very protective. Add to that the presence of labour unions. Does that make firing people based off of PIPs anymore difficult/trickier? or does it only affect company wide layoffs. #google #swe #pip #layoffs #meta #microsoft #apple #amazon #netflix TC: ~300K YoE: ~9
Wish US changed to this
Your mega high TC would go down immediately then. You can’t have it all.
That’s a bit presumptuous. There’s plenty of waste in the management level to draw from.
Remember that those countries are very conservative when hiring too. Not as crazy growths as faangs were doing in the US last couple years
You are a Japanese citizen?
Germany has laws as most European countries and it’s illegal to fire you.
There are rules that limit how companies can fire employees. Saying it's illegal to fire is just wrong
Next to impossible to fire in Japan
Same In France, you have to persuade people to leave though generous packages.
Not according to Emily in Paris!
This at-will employment is just unfair to employees. Employers always get the upper hand. They have very little to lose if you leave, but if you get laid off your next job is not easy to obtain. After all, it’s always easier to find next hire than to find a next job. US (I am a U.S. citizen) has the least amount of labor protection in developed or even compared with some developing countries.
This is so true
Well this why growing old in America is scary
There have been a ton of layoffs in Germany in the last year. It just takes some time to justify. There are many coasters that don't get fired because the managers are too lazy to do the paperwork or just don't care, but once they're convinced and decide to get rid of them they'll make it happen.
Also heard from a German friend that if severance is low you can sue for more and are likely to win