Posted this in PayPal's lounge, but posting here for more opinions. I recently got the following offers and in a dilemma to choose one. Currently working at PayPal India as a SWE 3 with 4 years of experience. 1. PayPal US - SWE 3 - Base 138K USD. No Sign-on bonus and No RSUs (Because of Internal transfer). I have 20K USD worth of unvested stocks. 2. Facebook SG - E4 - Base 145K SGD. 100K RSU/4 years. 10K SGD Sign-on bonus. My goal is to move to the US. If not immediately, atleast in next 2 years. I wanted to expand my horizons and work at FANG too to get more exposure and T.C. I'm not sure if rejecting FB over PayPal is worth it. At the same time I'm not sure if I can transfer to FB US from FB SG. P.S: There is no room for negotiations now. I have already received Visa to join FB at SG. #engineering #software #swe #fb #facebook #paypal #singapore #unitedstates
Where in us? 138k in the Bay Area will not go far at all.
San Jose.
Stay in India and be rich. Come here and be poor. 119k is poverty level in sf. San Jose is the same if not more expensive. Consumer Prices in San Francisco, CA are 246.93% higher than in Bangalore Consumer Prices Including Rent in San Francisco, CA are 479.38% higher than in Bangalore Rent Prices in San Francisco, CA are 1,268.54% higher than in Bangalore Restaurant Prices in San Francisco, CA are 363.19% higher than in Bangalore Groceries Prices in San Francisco, CA are 229.09% higher than in Bangalore Local Purchasing Power in San Francisco, CA is 105.03% higher than in Bangalore
Should be an easy choice for FB. Better company, better pay and you can L1 transfer 1 year later after exploring another country a bit
In PayPal getting an internal transfer to the US is very difficult, if not impossible. Full of politics. I'm wondering how things work at FB. If my performance is good, will I get a fair chance to move to the US? I'm ready to re-interview with other teams to move to the US within FB.
You will be in Singapore. Only India tries to hold people back from relocating to the US. It's the same at Microsoft
I think your new PayPal offer is crap.
Why do you say that? Very low pay?
PayPal is craP. Take FB. Is this even a question?
Why do you think PayPal is crap? The product or the company or the culture or the pay?
Everything. The culture is not really that good. Super political, mediocre pay. They are milking the same product for years no innovation. Was there for 2 years and then left. Best decision. They once used to innovate not anymore.
now there is only one option. Visa is banned
Both L1 and H1 are modern day slavery visas, if I were you I’d get my green card in Singapore and apply citizenship (Singapore passport is one of the worlds most powerful passports)
These entitled pricks don't really understand what slavery is and compare visas with it. They need to be chained, thrashed and made to work in agricultural fields to understand the pain slaves went through
L1 is banned till December 31st. Don’t waste your life waiting for it. Take Facebook and move to Singapore. It’s not longer worth moving to the US on L1
Serisoily... moving to redmond from Microsoft IDC was worsth decision ever I made - still on L1 and very cheap - my frnds in India are making almost similar to what I am making here now after switching jobs . Still on L1 and getting through h1 lottery is all luck ! Think twice before coming to usa on l1 - h1 is luck
Cant get L1 now
I've been down this road. Moved to US. Don't do it. It's not what it looks like. Don't bind yourself to these golden handcuffs. You will lose your friends, some of the most important family moments and a huge part of moving to US is being on your toes with visa issues. Once you are here, every other day you'll think of moving back. You'll miss your best friends weeding, the incredible reunions and everything in between. You'll want to move back but the thought of losing half a fortune will make it a really difficult decision. Once here, most people don't have the will power to break the golden handcuffs. It's called that for a reason. Don't come to US, you'll thank yourself in a couple of years.
well said!
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Did you get the L1 visa yet? Keep a watch out on the EO about to come. If they do ban new visas for 6 months to a year, definitely go for FB SG, spend 2 years and then move to the US.
Didn't apply for L1 Visa yet.
Well, enjoy your life in SG for a year or two. It was anyway a better choice :)