Performance Improvement Plans
The topic of PIP has been an ongoing one in our internal threads. I feel like I hear of Amazonian's being placed on PIP's and they are ultimately 'managed out' or they leave 'voluntarily' in a matter of weeks. People I feel are very sharp or do their part get placed on PIP's and I must say there is a certain level of fear here. I've even seen new hires get fired in a matter of months. Is that common elsewhere?
We rarely see employees put on PIP. As in I've never seen one in my 3.5 years here.
@JW, I've rarely seen people going on PIP here at Amazon. What group are you talking about?
also, they have all been those who have failed to move from SDE 1 to SDE 2
Isn't there similar pressure to move from SDE2 to 3?
I think it's more common here than at Google or Facebook. But management does a good job of making it seem like the employee is leaving voluntarily.
as a previous amazonian I heard of somebody on a PIP once every few months in my contacts from various groups. some even say the Bell curving process force someone to be on PIP every alternate cycle. Definitely not the trend outside amazon
Don't see a lot of them here either.
@naruto, dude that's horrible. I don't think bell curves are used to PIP people. Those are for deciding pay raises. If I'm doing a good job but someone else is doing a better job, do I get booted out for that? sounds like a team run by a bunch of grown up kids with an EQ of a 5 year old. Certainly not my entire group
I only know of two PIPs and they were coz they could not get promoted to L5 even after 4 odd years
So Amazon doesn't like to let employees go into cruise control mode. That actually makes sense.
Not at all. I would hate to be working under this kind of pressure. Why do you stay?
It is the same as getting the lowest rating at Microsoft - so why do you stay at MS with all that pressure? :-)