Previous Microsoft PMs currently at Google

PM (63) from Azure and just passed Google PM (product manager) phone screening. Looking for advice and experience of other MS PMs who moved to Google: how different is your current experience from your time at MS?

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Yelp BDkP87 Feb 3, 2018

Better pay for one thing :)

Microsoft ysvr47 OP Feb 3, 2018

Thanks, at this stage in my career salary is not a key deciding factor though

Microsoft OCAmIEvil Feb 3, 2018

What is this mysterious stage in your career? Are you getting pushed out?

Yelp BDkP87 Feb 3, 2018

Chatting with my friends at Google (PMs) they like the work quality more but have the same political bs

Microsoft OCAmIEvil Feb 3, 2018

Hmm, politics is getting things done.

Fidelity Investments GreenGhost Feb 3, 2018

Pretty sure that's unavoidable.

Google KLod48 Feb 3, 2018

Starkly different companies. Google is quite bottoms up and data driven - good ideas and projects proven with solid data and user research can gain momentum and become real products. Quality of co-workers is high, you’ll be pushed and will learn a lot in the process. That said, some orgs can have politics - talk to multiple teams and join the product you feel passionate about and the team/manager that seems the most inspiring and committed to their vision. Make the switch, you won’t regret it.

Microsoft ysvr47 OP Feb 3, 2018

Thanks

Google relus Feb 3, 2018

This. Although no environment is politics free, you can be purely data driven and do just fine without paying attention to the politics. In MS I had been in teams where politics was everything and the only work was to play along.

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gpji Feb 3, 2018

I wouldn’t say that google is politics free. However there is a higher degree of autonomy that comes with it being a more bottoms up and a developer centric org. That also means that as a PM, need to do the initial ramp up of gaining credibility with the eng teams. Google also operates for the large part to build consensus and this does mean that compared to some other orgs, esp Amazon - you spend time influencing horizontally (peers). Again lending to credibility being the currency.

Facebook n00b4ever Feb 4, 2018

Some ex-MSFT people in there hold bias against MSFT people. You’d have to prepare to possibly have those people in your loops.

Microsoft ysvr47 OP Feb 4, 2018

Thanks, good to know

Microsoft hello sark Feb 7, 2018

I just made that switch a few weeks ago. So far so good, I’m learning a lot. Do your homework on the team and meet with lots of folks. If you get past the HC they want to work with you to land you in the best place. Ramp up for me has been hard, since my team is mostly based in another office, so I’m learning on my own a lot. Still loving the new challenge and growing myself.

Microsoft ysvr47 OP Feb 15, 2018

Thanks for sharing your experience

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machan3 Mar 2, 2018

OP, @ysvr47, can you please share how many phone interviews, and what was the focus? Any prep tips you can share? Did you get any technical / problem solving questions, for which code or pseudo code was needed as answer? Thank you :)

MasterCard surmonk May 13, 2021

Hey OP @ysvr47 yes, please share your interview experience.