Tech IndustryOct 12, 2021
AccenturepBVi24

Product Manager at Capital One versus IBM

IBM (Raleigh) tc: $130k Capital One (DC) tc: $155k Post mba, 4 yoe pre MBA No product line specified yet #productmanager #ibm #capitalone #mba#tech #mbacompensation #productmanagement

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Qualtrics roper Oct 12, 2021

Locations?

Accenture pBVi24 OP Oct 12, 2021

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Qualtrics roper Oct 12, 2021

C1

Capital One Nvji03 Oct 12, 2021

I'm sure C1 is better than virtually any role at IBM but C1 product managers are 80%+ just project managers here, very few pure product managers

Accenture pBVi24 OP Oct 12, 2021

Do you see that as something that is changing over the years or remaining constant?

Capital One Nvji03 Oct 12, 2021

See it being the same if not worse, as in less actual product management.

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hRGp50 Oct 12, 2021

CapOne has stack ranking… Please be extremely careful… plus it is full of boot lickers and politics

IBM LItN53 Oct 13, 2021

It is about location too. Raleigh will be cheaper compared to DC area

IBM /!0+5/!|3 Oct 13, 2021

Depends on what’s most important to you. Your WLB at IBM will be better than any other product org out there (like ever). I’m not kidding… I’m leaving IBM very soon, but will miss the WLB. IBM won’t raise your TC for a while, but you will get a lot of PM recruiters reaching out to you for technical (higher comp) roles than you would at C1, depending on the team. IBM is industry agnostic and it’s easy to get a Platform PM role out of IBM, which is applicable to virtually any PM organization. So career flexibility gets a +1 on IBM. C1 is well reputed, but it’s not like a HUGE difference. When recruiting for future roles, though… especially if you want to go to a company with <5k employees, be ready to be doubted that you can move quickly if you go with IBM. So it’s really up to you to prove that you can succeed in a startup, fast paced env if that’s the type of company you want to be with after

IBM qfb3k_ Oct 13, 2021

TC per cost of living, Raleigh offer is better than DC offer.