I did a small data collection for ranking companies based on profit per Engineer. Company Tier is defined as annual profit per Engineer (on 2021) - - Tier 1 - 2 Million+ profit - Apple, Facebook - Tier 2 - 1-2 Million profit - Google - Tier 3 - Less than 1 Million profit - Amazon, Microsoft, Salesforce - Witch Tier - Employs more people outside of US than within US. - Oracle, IBM, SAP - Shit Tier - Makes 0 profit. - Uber I excluded companies which has less than 5,000 Engineers and only included US based companies. I also did a US weight calculation by assuming that a US engineer has 2 times profit share than non-US engineer. Majority of Investment banking and non-tech are excluded because they don't have 5000+ engineers and majority of profit share is because of Finance guys. This ranking also gives you an idea of which companies has lower chances of layoff when economy goes bad. Update - Oracle is 18,000 in US, not 1800. But it doesn't change its Tier Rating.
This post tier: shit
Atleast some Data is obviously wrong. Oracle has 1800 engineers in US? 🤣 also profit is a lagging indicator.
You are right, the number is actually 18,000. But it is still a Shit Tier.
Revenue/employee is counterintuitively a better metric than profit/employee. Much easier to increase profit by simply cutting expenses and other tactics, revenue numbers are hard to fabricate.
Walmart will be the king of that Metric. Revenue is useless if your profit margin is very low.
That’s not true. Walmart has 2.3 million employees for 572.8 billion in profit. Barely 200k/employee.
Some people have way too much time on their hands
I got the data driven culture from Amazon.
Actually this is pretty useful analysis, I used to run these numbers based on total headcount (which companies publish in their quarterly reports). Revenue and profit per employee make it easier to deduce whether the high or low TC companies give is going to stay or go away :)
Well done OP, at least someone is thinking good old fundamentals. Proud of you, metamate!
Isn't this info readily available in some apps, MarketWatch, for example?
This is not Revenue per Employee, but Profit per Engineer. It only counts Engineers. It only counts profit which has already removed the Employee salary.
@balik, this is great analysis, but where are you getting the engineering count from? I thought companies only publish total headcount in their quarterly reports, and don't break down by division?
Oracle probably has more in-US employees than any other tech company. Your misinformed. Also I think these metrics are totally made up.
Lol @ Uber.Tier == 💩
Interesting OP this is not a 💩 post!
Interesting! Appreciate it