HR IssuesOct 20, 2019
Newdrugs

Promoted 20 months ago, only to find out they never processed it?

Unsure how to handle this.. was recruited into an engineering role of design engineer II, came in and did extremely well, turned an entire failing engineering department around, etc. 20 months ago I️ was promoted to a supervisor tole and got a measly 9.2% raise. have been operating as a supervisor since then, invited to and attend the manager and supervisor quarterly meetings, have a team of engineers below me, call the shots, etc. Then annual review comes last week and I️ find out they never processed my promotion, I’m still a design engineer II, ive taken on excessive amounts of responsibility, and my 1.6+ years of supervisor experience is effectively wiped clean off the record?! I️ have performed and received big bonuses and the promotion was in writing, definitely on my HR record. Upon raising the issue with my boss he tried to sidestep saying “it never got processed” which is a really careless and weak way to explain that I️ wasnt actually promoted. If I️ hadnt made a huge impact on the company sure, fine, but its been the opposite. I️’m close with the CEO and VP’s, and want to raise the issue but dont want to burn my supervisors in the process. This sounds like a classic “failure of consideration” but I️ don’t want to take legal action at all, I️ just want my 1.6+ years of supervisory experience to be real and to actually have the responsibilites bestowed upon me. I️ have represented myself as a supervisor to the industry and to people in my personal life involving legal matters, so I️ worry I️ have perjured myself because of this carelessness on the part of my company. What would you do?

Wells Fargo HakunaMat! Oct 20, 2019

Leetcode and Exit!

New
drugs OP Oct 20, 2019

The bad taste in my mouth is pretty much pushing me in that direction. Honestly can’t believe they would treat a top performer like this. If this happened now, what else could be expected in the future right?

Amazon amznanon Oct 20, 2019

Ask them to fix it now. You can still tell people your version of things (you've been supervisor for 1.5 years already) and if the company cares to dispute it you can give them the whole story and say it was a clerical error

Amazon KHCr70 Oct 20, 2019

100% raise the issue

Hulu CgDlJ64709 Oct 20, 2019

Did the raise $$ go through just not the title?

New
drugs OP Oct 20, 2019

Yes, but 1.6+ years of supervisor experience puts me in a different threshold of pay grades for my job types. Almost like telling a janitor “well you’re paid just fine” when you ask them to be a director of R&D. The experience has value beyond the paycheck.

Hulu CgDlJ64709 Oct 20, 2019

At this point just take your TC & jump ship

Intuit b9n2s Oct 20, 2019

I’m going to say it’s your fault for not ensuring the paperwork went through. Big decisions such as this aren’t final until they’re on paper. As a professional you should know this. Always get everything in writing. Otherwise it isn’t real.

New
drugs OP Oct 20, 2019

It’s in writing with an ink signature from me on a review from January 2018

Intuit b9n2s Oct 20, 2019

Then how is it not official? I didn’t read the full post. Your signature isn’t what matters. It’s getting managements signature saying it’s effective. Though, to be fair, my promotions were on printed documents, with no signatures, and later reflected in HR systems (could see my new title in there, etc). You would’ve had some means like an HR system to login and verify.

SignalFx lolanm9 Oct 22, 2019

I am confused you said the promotion was in writing and on your HR record, but was never processed? Which was it. You got the experience, you got the money, you got the bonuses. This is not a legal thing. If they fix it going forward, you are still fine. Tell them "I updated my LinkedIn profile 1.6 years ago, is there any issue with that?". If they say that's ok, it's fine. Your manager probably messed up and never got official approval and now they are trying to figure out what to do. Bottom line, you got GREAT experience. If they want to make you happy, they will retro the promotion, but even fixing it on a go-forward basis should be good. As a new engineering manager, the 1.6 years missing being formally on your job record would not put you in a different job level. Engineering managers typically go Eng Mgr, Sr. Eng Mgr, Eng Director, Sr. Eng Director. You would likely move to Sr Eng Mgr based on your leadership skills, team size, and responsibility. Whether or not the HR system shows those 1.6 years is not a big deal. You mention being able to speak to the CEO, that means your company must be relatively small and fixing this should not be a big deal. If you were at a large company, a retroactive fix might not be possible due to all sorts of HR policies and considerations.