Is Waymo the last hope standing for tech efforts of self driving .

With Apple’s announcement of winding down car program , Cruise’s demise leaves Waymo the only hope left ? Do we foresee Google pulling out funding from Waymo given economic conditions and financial pressure? Or this is the dark horse in google’s portfolio to reclaim its somewhat lost glory ? There are few players left like #zoox And each traditional automakers doing their slow paced rollout via internal efforts or subsidiaries like #motional #woven . Without big pockets of Tech , I don’t foresee Traditional automakers making rapid progress given gloomy market conditions. #tech #auto #ford #generalmotors #hyundaimotor #toyota #apple #nvidia# mobileye #rivianautomotive #mercedesbenz #lucidmotors

ServiceNow hkqd80 Feb 29

Nah Elon musk gonna release full self driving in 2019

Rivian R2TS OP Feb 29

lol he got distracted with twitter maybe ?

Activision Blizzard rajesh01 Feb 29

don’t worry twitter is only a small distraction. fsd is will roll out by 2022

FormFactor phillopee Feb 29

Cruise s demise ? What do you mean ?

Instacart wait4Pnuts Feb 29

We were 2 years from full self driving in 2015 lol. Tech doesn’t seem to be able to get to that last 0.1%

Zoox chk&wffls Mar 1

If you thought we were 2 years away from it in 2015, that's on you lol.

Apple tiktok212 Mar 3

Space industry of the world has managed to have men on the moon 60+ years ago. Wait: Space Industry = = NASA

Dell HighMind Feb 29

George Hotz

LinkedIn firenwater Feb 29

Cruise is going to eventually bounce back, they're slowly rolling things out again. There are still other players working on autonomous vehicles to various degrees (Nuro, Zoox, etc), as well as in the commercial space with trucking.

Two Sigma antKillums Feb 29

Aurora

Rivian R2TS OP Feb 29

Targeting the right segment but doesn’t it look far behind ? Partnership with Continental is good but Continental is just tier-1 supplier and they will have to hunt for a real customer who can deploy the product. Interestingly Gatik making good progress for this segment along with Kodiak

Google mpde Feb 29

Waymo has proven that it is possible to reach reasonable quality in L4, but has also proven it is extremely capital intensive to reach that stage. Until some smaller startup shows they can replicate what Waymo can do within a reasonable time, and with a much smaller capital cost, most funding will shy away from supporting any more investments. Feels very similar to other ages of AI winter.

Rivian R2TS OP Feb 29

True . Another challenge is scaling L4/L5 to larger geographical areas without geofencing to reap real business benefits.

Apple tiktok212 Mar 2

in the meantime, TSLA cannot do any L4 in Any city,. as of 2024. How cool is that?! Ans: Very cool!

Apple exapple Feb 29

google has already laid off some of its own folks developing silicon for waymo... full self-driving was a pipe dream from techies who didn't understand the complexity of the problem

Activision Blizzard rajesh01 Feb 29

but waymo cars are indeed full self driving though… albeit in a geofenced area. but it works just fine

Apple tiktok212 Mar 2

I don't understand the complexity of the problem (neither was Tim Apple, who wasted billions of dollars for the last 10 years) , but isn't Waymo running in the Entire city of San Francisco, hundreds of square miles in Phoenix, as of today? And that is pipe dream, according to your definition?

Tesla rzCW27 Feb 29

Try fsd 12, then come back comment

Rivian R2TS OP Feb 29

Looks good step forward , I would want to wait for few months before jumping to any conclusions.

Waymo tigolbits Mar 1

Lol you live in a fantasy world, rzc

Google gd66 Feb 29

Objectively waymo was way ahead of the competition.

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OtnQ62 Mar 1

Missed opportunity to say "they are waymo ahead of the competition." Also FSD v12 looks promising, I think tesla might be able to brute force a decent solution by virtue of having the most data, and they can keep their R&D efforts running since they actually generate profits. The same can't be said about a lot of AV companies, especially the smaller/startup ones.