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Returning a clawback bonus

Assuming someone wants to leave before the clawback period expires. Is the amount they return pro-rated and do they return the pre-tax or post-tax amount? T&C is unclear on this.

Microsoft QiLuLu Aug 5, 2018

What on earth is a “clawback bonus”?!?! Tell me it is not exactly what it says!

IBM NbPo38 OP Aug 5, 2018

It’s sign on cash bonus with repayment agreement. The payment is earned if you stick for the clawback period.

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BerryBerry Aug 5, 2018

What on earth is a “clawback period”?!

Nike StefO Aug 5, 2018

Generally, you have to stay for a year at most places or else you have to repay your signing bonus.

State Farm 599 Aug 5, 2018

He’s asking do you return the pre-tax or post-tax amount.

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🌲50 Aug 5, 2018

Never heard of clawback bonuses outside of finance. Usually you get a document that clearly spells out these situations, but if not I would think the answer is yes and yes.

IBM NbPo38 OP Aug 5, 2018

Unclear what the second yes corresponds to? Pre-tax or post-tax?

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🌲50 Aug 5, 2018

Post tax. Your W2 should look like it never happened

MapR Technologies JTQV35 Aug 5, 2018

Been there, left 9 months in. Had to return full pre-tax amount by writing the company a check. They gave me a receipt to use to try to get the taxes back on it, but I’m not convinced I ever did.

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QWERGdjeje Aug 5, 2018

I think it’s posttax. It doesn’t make sense to pay pretax

Facebook Poswcoiner Aug 5, 2018

You should have gotten a w2c to show the adjustment since the company has a legal requirement to explain where your cheque came from

MailChimp jei3lq67 Aug 5, 2018

Pretax. They let you deal with the IRS.

IBM NbPo38 OP Aug 5, 2018

Lovely.

MailChimp jei3lq67 Aug 5, 2018

Yeah. If you get it and leave within the same tax year then its pre tax. But if you got a bonus in like September and leave in June, its post tax because they already paid it out. I had to give one back once.

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QWERGdjeje Aug 5, 2018

Posttax.

IBM bbWI22 Aug 5, 2018

That bad, huh?

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BerryBerry Aug 5, 2018

Usually: - If you paid back in the same calendar year you pay net and employer grosses it up and adjust their tax withholding. - if you pay it back next year, you pay gross but get tax credit

IBM NbPo38 OP Aug 5, 2018

This contradicts what jei (MailChimp) wrote above though right? They suggest that if you’re leaving in a different year you only pay the post-tax part.

A10 Networks Thundar Aug 5, 2018

Pre-tax. I know this from experience.