Tech IndustryFeb 13, 2020
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SWE salaries are about to cool down

Looks like the days of strong compensation packages are numbered. Companies want to hire more remote workers which puts downward pressure on those who do work in a physical location. Time to dust off the GMAT study guides. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/08/twitter-ceo-jack-dorsey-san-francisco-comments-a-warning-sign.html

Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey's comments about San Francisco are a warning sign for the city's tech scene
Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey's comments about San Francisco are a warning sign for the city's tech scene
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Jet Applepii Feb 13, 2020

He has two jobs just to make ends meet

Square JackHorsey Feb 13, 2020

Two jobs and does zero work.

AVL FCH0P!N Feb 13, 2020

Oooof!

Facebook odnr Feb 13, 2020

Lol.

Microsoft megamanX Feb 13, 2020

Great! The bay sucks. I would much rather live and work in fly over country.

Sony CTtQ73 Feb 13, 2020

I welcome it. I see nothing so special about the Bay Area that I should have to endure what anywhere else is a middle class lifestyle, just to make a decent TC. There are places elsewhere in the US and California where you can have a much better life with less money, but the FAANGs all want to stay in the Bay and certain privileged cities. It makes some sense when you are a startup and trying to get funding, that you want to be near the people who write checks, but after that? Why not find a town near a couple colleges with decent CS programs and some desirable outdoor activities, or better yet, just go like 90% distributed workforce. It fucking 2020. Yes, overall salaries will go down, but there will be more relatively high salaried jobs available from low COL areas.

Jet Applepii Feb 13, 2020

People seem to think you need computer science when most problems just need a script.

Microsoft teslacoin Feb 13, 2020

Finally - I believe software engineers are truly overpaid

IBM B3K Feb 13, 2020

So unionize.

Ubisoft yLcC27 Feb 13, 2020

Normal SWE is overpaid in the US.

Oracle dUyf08 Feb 13, 2020

I see a bunch of sour grapes. Probably it’s good that Twitter moves out so others can take its market share. This Dorsey guy does nothing but just Tweets about random ideas.

Microsoft 10c5292v Feb 13, 2020

HashiCorp estimates they save $10-15k per year by being distributed and avoiding real estate. That's It? I would have expected it to be higher.

Microsoft teslacoin Feb 13, 2020

True - something is wrong with the data - maybe they already underpay significantly

Apptio xqVu62 Feb 13, 2020

10-15k per employee. That is $16 million/year for $15k x 1,100. For a company that does $100 million revenue that is a lot...

Microsoft teslacoin Feb 13, 2020

Honestly that area where twitter is and Uber is - I am scared to even walk around - homeless and open poop and mentally ill , outnumber software engineers- it’s sad and depressing- how did San Francisco turn out to be costly when you cannot step out of your home without seeing someone shouting or running behind you.

Booz Allen Hamilton sudo_su__ Feb 13, 2020

I moved out of the Bay. I grew up there. The Mission smells like piss all the time. No thanks. DC is great for long term stability. Govt defense sector is never going away—bc guess what? You can’t outsource guys in India to do Top Secret mission critical work. I make decent amount—have great work life balance with a 9to5 and know in economic downturns I’m going to be fine. Manage to even buy a home in the burbs with close to an acre of land.

Cox Automotive azgs57 Feb 13, 2020

Congrats, sounds like a safe move

WeWork WeTried Feb 13, 2020

Top talent in SF is not attracted to Twitter unless the money is ridiculous? Shocker.