PoliticsMay 30, 2019
Accentureshortsell

Salesforce bans retailers whom sell certain guns

I've been a on-again-off-again Salesforce Developer and advocate for 10-years. In my personal and professional life I always try to treat people with dignity and respect and expect my colleagues to do the same. I do tend to keep my conservative, libertarian opinions to myself, because working in technology and living in San Francisco, I have had colleagues belittle, taunt, and at times act openly hostile toward me for being unapologetically libertarian/classically liberal. Still, as a gun owner, I can't help but wonder if I am no longer welcome in the Salesforce developer community? I find this ironic for an company/community that prides itself on diversity and inclusion... To be clear, Salesforce can do what it wants with it's product and money. I'm just curious if I should remove pictures of myself participating in shooting sports from social media for fear I will be dis-invited from speaking events/not extended invitations? https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/30/18645722/salesforce-ban-retail-customers-selling-semi-automatic-guns-rifles

Salesforce says it won't work with online retailers that sell semi-automatic weapons
Salesforce says it won't work with online retailers that sell semi-automatic weapons
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Microsoft Caezure May 30, 2019

Their homeless pledge is doing wonders as well.

Northrop Grumman HowCouldYu May 30, 2019

Is it? I actually can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not

Microsoft Caezure May 30, 2019

Sarcasm of the utmost proportions, yes.

Tableau krxi15 May 30, 2019

Since when is conservatism considered diversity? Salesforce don’t even know your affiliation. Also being opposed to terrorism doesn’t mean you are not inclusive of muslims. Its mutually exclusive things. Democrats owns guns too.

Activision Blizzard bHsd57 May 30, 2019

This kind of thing is so asinine. It’s never a good idea to divide your customer base, especially along the lines of some enumerated protected constitutional right that half of the country is extremely passionate about. Refusing services to a whole class of people is just so distasteful and bigoted, regardless the reason. I also keep my libertarian opinions to myself, and wish businesses would do the same with theirs.

Twitter Oomnj May 30, 2019

When a company has too much power it can treat its customers like shit unfortunately

Twitter Oomnj May 30, 2019

Marc sucks. He needs to stop selling to any country with a 2A if be really wants to be woke

Apple magikarp16 May 30, 2019

Good move!

Oracle alwzangry May 30, 2019

This is how you get {your favorite ideolog -ical} authoritarianism. Where's antitrust? Practically asleep this millennium. When you get monopolies and cartels, consumers get a big 'screw you'.

Microsoft idknbd May 30, 2019

nobody at salesforce cares if you own a gun or are politically conservative, seriously

Accenture shortsell OP May 30, 2019

So your saying Benioff doesn't care if I own an AR-15? Because that's not what his tweeted and he is no stranger to donating large sums of money to gun control groups. Some of these groups advocate for laws that would require me to hand over this (ar-15) style of gun or go to jail. Like, you have 30 days. Turn it in, or we come with our guns, point them at you and your family and put you in jail type laws.

Salesforce hypeforce May 31, 2019

But we do care if your kid shows up at school with your gun.

OpenTable Meliodas May 31, 2019

Gun grabbers gonna grab.

Salesforce saaasy May 31, 2019

meanwhile we keep selling to the US government, one of the most gun happy groups around

Salesforce hypeforce May 31, 2019

You miss the point. Defence and police need guns and semi automatic rifles. Civilians don't need to fire 60 rounds a minute.

Salesforce hypeforce May 31, 2019

I have class C license for driving car alone. Cannot drive truck, for the reason that I need to show different set of skills for driving truck than I need for driving car, otherwise people could get run over. Apply same thinking to gun.

Salesforce hrunf May 31, 2019

Internally Salesforce is updating its acceptable terms of use so it can weaponize its values against those it disagrees with, even if that affects loyal and law abiding customers. We’re on track to join Facebook, Twitter, Azure, etc. in the club of companies squashing all we dislike or disagree with. The country’s polarization will get worse, and I’m saddened very much by this. Also being classically liberal, I’m torn about what to do given this development. I’d like civil disagreements to stay within the first amendment arena and legal system, but that’s not how things are trending. Even though I’ve worked very hard for many years for Salesforce, I’d like to take my talents and go work for “the other side” but AFAICT I can’t tell that there is another side in the tech oligarchy we have now.

Accenture shortsell OP May 31, 2019

Good points. And honestly this kind hegemony of opinion has been highlighted by the closeted conservatives in tech. As long as I can remember. Luckily for us I guess saying "I'm libertarian" tends to disarm people when they heard your conservative. Calling yourself a "Republican" is like a trigger... But "I'm a libertarian" is more like "oh ok, your just one of those crazy people I can ignore you... your values are so out there they'll never affect me"

Microsoft Caezure May 31, 2019

Mostly because they don’t know the difference, only that it doesn’t sound like the words republican or conservative so they don’t have to push the nuclear rant button.