Tech IndustryNov 18, 2023
Googleteslacle

Sam Altman’s reputation among OpenAI researchers

Im sure Sam Altman was well liked among a particular set inside OpenAI, especially the non-research orgs. I’m curious about his reputation among the actual model builders/research folks. He seems to be grabbing a lot of the public credit for their work, and at the end of the day - the reason why OpenAI is where they are, is because of their model superiority. (I can’t tag OpenAI for some reason for the post) #openai

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Google teslacle OP Nov 18, 2023

Those are not the important folks so far

Zscaler devakaschi Nov 18, 2023

Every ML researcher had a framed photo of Altman in their homes and workplace. How can they not? Considering the guy invented ML?! For the uninitiated, this is sarcasm

Meta userrnam3 Nov 18, 2023

I dunno about that... I remember him publicly emphasizing that it was the work of others working at openai and saying that he's being given too much credit.

OpenAI vbglhhd Nov 18, 2023

He was very well loved and well respected unlike other leaders here. Majority of us are furious at this.

Toast yreqacc Nov 18, 2023

Thanks for actually answering the question

Zscaler VRamaswamy Nov 18, 2023

Any inside info on why this happened?

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gDOT50 Nov 18, 2023

It's just an engineering perspective that Open AI is successful because of model superiority. It's partially true but building a company requires a lot more.

OpenAI AI coup Nov 18, 2023

Solid reputation, kind, if not naive, but supportive of our work. Greg was universally beloved. This was corporate politics at its worst.

Coinbase cbdex Nov 18, 2023

Was microshit behind it?

OpenAI AI coup Nov 18, 2023

No, it was Ilya

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ifgea Nov 18, 2023

This research came out of google and they were not able to ship it as a product. Research is important but it is also important to have a vision for a product. Sam Altman and the team at open ai saw the product potential which helped direct the research. He didn’t “grab public credit for their work” as you put it. He deserves some credit as a builder. Their model superiority is superior because they had a goal of what to they wanted to make. He made big contributions to the field whether you want to admit it or not.

Google teslacle OP Nov 18, 2023

They didn’t really have a vision for this specific product. Sam altman himself admitted they were surprised at the uptake of chatgpt. GPT itself was a function of them taking of resources to make the model better. And that is also driven by Ilya sutskever among others at openAI

Google SickOfIt2 Nov 19, 2023

He feels slimy like Elon Musk.