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Should I switch to Samsung? How is the WLB? Level: Staff Base: 175K Bonus: 20-25% Sign on: 50K Retention: 200K over 4 years Current TC Base: 153K Bonus: 10% Unvested RSU:220K over 4 years I feel I am getting paid less at Apple even after being 7/9 consistently. YOE: 4.5 years #hardware #bayarea

Optum sde_majdur Nov 7, 2021

What's 7/9?

Apple jjnh546 OP Nov 7, 2021

Its performance valuation

Applied Material Tartaglia Nov 7, 2021

Apple has more refresh ?

Apple jjnh546 OP Nov 7, 2021

Yes, it depends on performance, but generally its 50-60K

Apple tratro Nov 7, 2021

Is this for Austin or San Jose?

Apple jjnh546 OP Nov 7, 2021

San Jose

Apple tratro Nov 7, 2021

Money wise, Samsung offer is better. Take it

Apple cyberkoala Nov 7, 2021

Apple has to level up their comp!

Google hdwr Nov 7, 2021

Really?? I thought apple pay is best in the industry.

Qualcomm QUALCOM Nov 8, 2021

It used be Apple but now Broadcom is the best payer (imho)

Cisco justasw3 Nov 7, 2021

What's with all the whining that hardware salaries are not as high as software. This is as high as a SWE would get with 4.5yoe. Infact beats lots of SWE salaries.

Samsung Was@korea Nov 7, 2021

I would think twice before joining Asian company WLB is dependent on group lot of people have left recently. Also Korea can cut and run anytime they want . They have done that before . The whole org runs on whims of one person

Apple jjnh546 OP Nov 8, 2021

All the team sits in California and Texas. Sacking happens in US companies too. That’s how the business go. Intel, QC to name few in hardware recently. Are you saying, the WLB in Samsung US is bad?

Apple YouknoNtng Nov 8, 2021

Samsung is notorious for sacking entire teams at the blink of an eye. Apple on the other hand is much more stable. Also I can’t think highly of the quality of work at Samsung. They sacked the CPU team and now using stock ARM cores. They are collaborating with AMD on the GPUs. So, I would think twice before joining Samsung. Lot of other companies which have better potential are hiring (MS, Google, Meta). Try them if you really don’t want to stay at Apple.

TI JUoq01 Nov 8, 2021

Does Samsung offer any kind of refresher? What will happen to the cliff after 3/4 years?

Apple jjnh546 OP Nov 8, 2021

Ya that’s one thing I am worried about. I am looking for Samsung folks to comment on this.

Samsung s3xyz Nov 8, 2021

It is not RSU, it is a cash that is paid annually. At the end of 4th year they will revise it

Samsung s3xyz Nov 8, 2021

If you are planning to stay 1or 2 years then Samsung offer is good money wise

Apple jjnh546 OP Nov 9, 2021

@s3xyz How does Samsung compensate the refreshers which other companies give every year in terms of RSU? They are giving me retention now but how is their refreshers every year?

Samsung s3xyz Nov 9, 2021

There is no concept of refresher. It is fixed cash per year for 4 years.

Samsung s3xyz Nov 8, 2021

You will be working on AMD GPU

Apple jjnh546 OP Nov 9, 2021

They are hiring for their internal GPU team. Currently they are in contract with AMD

Samsung s3xyz Nov 9, 2021

It AMD architecture and design.

Apple jjnh546 OP Nov 9, 2021

Nice!!! Which group do you work?

Samsung tkiL58 Nov 9, 2021

From Austin SARC ACL. Cool AI/ML work happens in CA though!