StartupsSep 20, 2021
GoogleKJey40

Seed stage startup offer advice

I just received an offer from a seed-stage startup for $147k base and 0.5% equity in the form of stock options to join as one of the first engineers. I am currently an L3 at Google with a base of $135k. The startup raised 4.2m in their seed round, but I don't know the valuation yet. I'm not quite sure what to consider when considering an offer from such an early stage start up. Any advice or suggestions? I'm particularly interested in learning what I should be looking for in terms of equity. #startup #seed #faang #google #equity

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Dynamic Signal visansin Sep 20, 2021

First evaluate what are they selling. Are they pre revenue or post? Or still figuring out product market fit. Once you are confident in what they are and they have good future then this offer is a good one.

Fivetran brandnew24 Sep 21, 2021

Totally. Also, who are the founders? Is this their first start up or their second or third? If the latter, what were the outcomes of those prior companies?

LinkedIn The0ne Sep 20, 2021

What is your current TC ? If TC is a criteria for next move then better don’t join in a startup

Google KJey40 OP Sep 20, 2021

My current TC is around 185 with stock and bonus. TC is definitely important but not the biggest deciding factor. I like the space, mission and potential impact of the product, and think it could be a good opportunity for growth

LinkedIn The0ne Sep 20, 2021

How come you TC is low .. are you not full time with Google ?

Amazon TargetTC Sep 20, 2021

Google DM me please

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mugiwara1 Sep 20, 2021

Stay at Google. Recently left a startup, not worth it tbh

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XBAp34 Sep 21, 2021

Leave Google. Recently startup got acquired, totally worth it. ^^ Generalized statements like this don't really help OP. Like the other comment said, look for past history of the founders and the potential market for the product to decide. Sometimes it may be about your passion (like EV, autonomous vehicles, AR/VR or AI) where someone may pursue something even though it may be far fetched and TC may be lower

Financial Service Company 📈 stonk Sep 21, 2021

It can be simplified to something like: Are you confident in your abilities to find and wear a venture capitalist's hat. Are you willing to wait 5+ years before you even know if your equity is worth something (or until you can sell on the startup equity market)? If the answer is no to both of those, stick with Google. There are other factors to consider, but as someone at a late stage newly minted unicorn, I don't think I would accept an offer from Google right now if I was somehow able to get one. At the same time, I think if I was already at Google, I wouldn't want to leave for an early stage startup unless they have a lot of coverage and have a recognizable name (or I was already financially secure).

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shr00ms Sep 20, 2021

you’re young in your career, you should spend a couple more years at a place like Google and be a sponge. startups have very little structure and you’ll be grinding out more code than you’ll be learning. especially since you presumably won’t be architecting the systems they’re building out, at least at first.

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n00b_dev Sep 21, 2021

Oh! You mean take risk when old? Interesting...

Moody's binarySear Sep 21, 2021

So in Google or big tech junior roles , they architect , develop, test and release stuff ? I thought in those places , less learning is possible than in a start up . I learned a lot on a start up like company than in a big company as in big company most of the aspects of trade got dedicated teams and you get less visibility on end to end under the hood stuff

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hugh jarse Sep 20, 2021

base is higher and equity is quite reasonable for L3. take it. valuation likely $25m nothing exceptional these days

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mjJA23 Sep 21, 2021

This is weird offer for seed stage. Expect more stocks, less cash on this.

Riot Games bigspicy Sep 21, 2021

The offer isn’t good

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underDag26 Sep 21, 2021

Ask for 1% and take the gamble. As long as you like the team, company and product that they’re selling. If you see potential. Also, if you can financially afford the gamble. Your stake is going to get diluted but if you’re able to get more every promotion, then it’ll be worth it

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dn1231 Sep 21, 2021

Don’t go