CiscoEulersIdty

Senior Software Engineer shot down by a Junior Software Engineer

My friend went to MIT, and have been in software engineering for 12+ years. And he interviewed with a company. They asked a junior engineer who has 1 year of experience, and went to a school that is not in the top 200 engineering school list to interview him. And then she shot him down, and the HR just sent him a scripted "we are moving forward with other candidates" email. I know this guy. He writes great code, and he is not rude, and he is far from the machismo type. So in general, how would a 1 year experience person judge a 12 year experience MIT person to say he is "no good"? #swe #interview

Microsoft ngRd9ft Apr 13, 2021

Inb4 someone claims "yoe != competence"

Apple ~007~ Apr 13, 2021

Interviews are subjective and who knows what obscure question she asked.

Roku crueIla Apr 13, 2021

The perks of LC!

Salesforce javac1990 Apr 13, 2021

It's the company's loss and not the candidates loss. If he is good he will find something better. Happens all the time. Happend to me last week. Interviewers feel they are top talent and hot commodity when they are conducting interview.

Rubrik hatsume Apr 13, 2021

You should change the title, I thought someone really shot someone. Like with a gun.

Societe Generale lasania Apr 13, 2021

That's a click bait 😏

Salesforce javac1990 Apr 13, 2021

I was like..why is this incident not in the news ..then turns out to be interview story.

Microsoft anms Apr 13, 2021

It’s not about his employment experience but about his interview experience. Many things can go wrong - was unable to communicate clearly and adjusted to skill level of listener, has forgot CS fundamentals, was making too many assumptions instead of clarifying them, has not picked up hints, etc... Also it can be possible that interviewer was not fully trained and their feedback went to trash can instead of hiring manager.

GE n64gtfo Apr 17, 2021

This. If he can’t communicate well with the junior engineer, he isn’t a good senior. The junior is more than welcome to have a say in my book. I will take his input with the understanding of his own experiences and competencies, though. Which means it would be rare for a one year junior to be the total veto, which also means he probably didn’t blow it out of the park on the other parts.

Amazon Just Jared Apr 13, 2021

How exactly do you even know that this interviewer is a junior engineer that has 1 year of experience, and went to a school that is not in the top 200 engineering school list? Seems like a lot of information to disclose during the interview just saying

Wayfair nirujShah Apr 13, 2021

I commonly look at my interviewer’s linkedin as part of prep.

Cisco EulersIdty OP Apr 13, 2021

eaxctly... linkedin, with the interviewer's name and the company she is working at. It is hardly any secret. That company gave me the full name... I respect that the interviewer and the company are not afraid to hide themselves... when they know my full name and they have to hide theirs

Wayfair nirujShah Apr 13, 2021

Could be your friend was too good and junior was shortsighted. Junior thought of your friend as competition instead of force multiplier

Google rkto Apr 13, 2021

What school you go to is totally irrelevant. No one cares. MIT in your resume doesn’t make you write better code, or document better, or communicate better. Sometimes, seniority is worth as much as the paper the resume is written on. Seniority itself doesn’t mean anything. Grow up

Google 1337_coder Apr 13, 2021

But what can interviewer say about the candidate having just 1 year? I understand it’s possible that candidate can be unprofessional after 12 years and they gained nothing valuable on one side and genius junior candidate on the other. But what’s the probability of this event? It’s a usual thing to ask people problems/new features/something really cool/etc you just learnt yesterday and expect they know it. Or should be able to solve it in 25-40 minutes while you spent 1-2-5 hours on it. It’s immaturity as is. So your advice “grow up” works in both ways.

Amazon AWS-argh Apr 13, 2021

Probability doesn't matter. If a junior dev doesn't like a senior dev, the senior dev should know better. Period. If a senior dev intends to get hired somewhere, they -need- to be a force multiplier.

AMD whGq83 Apr 13, 2021

Maybe he was overqualified and they knew they wouldn't afford him?

Cisco EulersIdty OP Apr 13, 2021

but then why waste the 30 to 45 minutes talking to him first with the HR person, and then with the junior interviewer for 1 hour? But sometimes, I feel they keep on asking about the guy's working experience at FAANG... so they may only want to talk to him to get some insiders facts or knowhow