Auto IndustryMar 2, 2021
Googlexhwhauhbfk

Shall I interview at Zoox or a waste of time?

At Waymo being recruited by Zoox. Heard they have both paper money and amazon stock. How does that work? Do you think they will have larger financial upside than Waymo? TC: 370 #Zoox #Waymo

BYTON BYTOFF Mar 2, 2021

Waymo has better upside. Also better stability thanks to Google

Zoox zV2newguy Mar 2, 2021

One time Amazon RSU grant, then rest Zoox Stock Appreciation Rights. There are also cash awards instead of Amazon RSUs for promos.

Roku crueIla Mar 3, 2021

What’s a “Zoox Stock Appreciation Rights”?

Zoox zV2newguy Mar 3, 2021

They're like a different kind of option. When you exercise, you don't pay the strike price (good) and just get cash as the difference (mixed). Being cash, there's no further growth like if you had received and held onto shares after exercising an option.

Google xhwhauhbfk OP Mar 3, 2021

Interesting. Do those options compare well against competitors? Say $400k/4 years? Also, isn’t Zoox part of Amazon? Are you saying it might IPO one day like Waymo?

Zoox AlphaBeta. Mar 3, 2021

Can you provide details and level for yourself at Waymo? What is the breakup of 370k? Also to answer the question the, I will say the Amazon RSU Grant and options together and definitely comparable against competition. For example 300k RSU + 250k ZARs

Google xhwhauhbfk OP Mar 3, 2021

Wow that’s a lot. For the breakdown u can dm me.

Zoox AlphaBeta. Mar 3, 2021

Also about the upside, I guess one nice thing about Zoox is that you don't have to wait for IPO for liquidity. The liquidity is Gauranteed. The price of ZARs is expected to grow by 10x in next 4-5 years. But that maybe a bullish outlook. No one can be 100% certain. The downside of course is while you can keep the Amazon grant for life, you will have to cash out any vested ZAR when you leave. Also we may still IPO like AWS can technically IPO. You can have your opinion about how likely or unlikely that is.

Roku crueIla Mar 3, 2021

@zoox. Thanks for answering questions!

Google xhwhauhbfk OP Mar 3, 2021

Thanks! Why do you mean guarantee? Is Zoox going public? How will it 10x and let me sell back to Amazon? Where is the market price determined for Zoox?

Google UMSE20 Mar 3, 2021

I got offers from both Waymo and Zoox. Zoox pays about half of what Waymo pays in total package, and Zoox didn’t even try to match.

LinkedIn dfrtho Mar 3, 2021

How was your Waymo offer? I can DM, if needed.

Zoox AlphaBeta. Mar 3, 2021

Aso curious about your Zoox offer and level

Google Carbon-14 Mar 4, 2021

Stay at Waymo.

Nuro SphB71 Mar 4, 2021

Come to Nuro. It has a very compelling mission!

United Technologies mP33 Mar 4, 2021

Does Nuro work on CAE/FEA analysis?

Zoox chk&wffls Mar 4, 2021

mP33 no I'm pretty sure they're building their vehicle with no CAE/FEA... Simulations are kinda overrated 🤭🤭

Magna International User#13 Mar 4, 2021

Stick with Waymo

Google Tzfw47 Mar 4, 2021

Waymo is the move. Anyone would be foolish to leave Waymo for Zoox (with rare exceptions)

CYNGN harb987 Mar 4, 2021

Meh waste of time