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Now working at a mid-sized company, entry level SDE, TC is the same as Slack offer, 180k. Got offer from Slack in mid 2022, start date is coming up. Now the big concern is potential layoff. Would Slack be safe if Salesforce continues layoff? (Since Slack was bought as a pioneer product?) Salesforce stock dropped 50%, while current company’s dropped less than 10%. Does that(less dropped %) indicate I should stay? Thank you for your opinions. Slack Salesforce Layoff #software #engineering TC 180k
If you don’t have any other offer? What do you do?
I’m at a mid-sized company right now, pay is the same, fearing joining Slack could be a bad choice at this moment?
What is it that you’ll be getting in new role compared to your old role besides compensation? Evaluate those and make a call.
I would not join for no pay increase. I could be short-sighted.
Same. What's even the point unless you're escaping a toxic environment?
Don’t do it.
May I ask the reason? Thanks!
Hiring freeze, salesforce is planning to cut costs, shift to a “performance based” culture. You’re about to walk into a dumpster fire
Stay where you are at or waiting after their new fiscal year
Because of the uncertainty of earning call performance and potential layoff?
Because come 2/1/23 fiscal resets and it is like Thanos snapped his finger. Everyone gets reshuffled
It’s a good tier B tech company to have in your history, particularly Slack. However benefits are cut and comp is now shit. Do it for rest and vest, don’t go if you care about your work. Layoffs are a maybe. Sentiment is mixed. But they’re a maybe everywhere.
Thank you sir. And may I ask do you see Slack overhired? Trying to evaluate the potential “hire-to-fire” risk.
Understaffed in SWE. But that doesn’t change risk, boards and investors don’t care about your developer team.
I worked for another acquires company of Salesforce in a past life, including during the acquisition, and layoffs were consistent across all of their acquired companies and Salesforce core. I would assume layoffs are the same risk as if you got an offer at core Salesforce.
Acquired*
While your point is correct about layoffs . I would reckon core is 10% safer than others . It brings almost 7 to 8 b dollars in revenue .
I’d join. It’s a great culture at Slack, and we’re fairly well insulated from a lot of what is happening at Salesforce because the entities aren’t fully integrated. Not to say layoffs won’t touch us, but from everything I’ve heard from my EVP and higher, the impact to Slack should be minimal. This is because Slack is where Salesforce is putting all of its resources in pursuit of making it a Digital HQ, so non-sales folks are generally gonna be okay.
Thanks sir! May I ask 1. Is stack ranking going on/about to happen to engineers in Slack/sf? 2. About internal mobility in Slack, can you still switch teams? (assigned to a Hacklang team but Java is my strong suit) Thank you so much!
Join Slack it’s solid. Good engineers there to learn from. Echo what others have said.
Join.