I have been at Microsoft as l64 PM in Azure with TC $320K for less than 8months. I like what I do and no complaints with work life balance. Apple approached me and I slayed the PM interview. New tc $428k. Cons: 1. I have to pay back $50k Microsoft sign on bonus. 2. No vested stocks. Will loose $80K stocks which will vest in 5 months 3. Leaving Microsoft with such a short tenure. 4. Joining new company in this economy when I can continue working at Microsoft. 5. Can get promoted at Microsoft in 12-18months. Pros: $100k jump in tc What should I do? Edit 1: I am on H1B. So I can’t go back to Microsoft and ask to match Apple offer. If Microsoft asks me to leave, then I will be jobless until Apple files my H1B or worst offer retract. #apple #microsoft #faang
what is your tc breakdown microsoft L64 pm gets 320k?
Base 210 Stocks 80k Bonus 30 Sign on 50
Is that max sign on? Talk to your recruiter to explain your lost opportunity cost. If they want you, they’ll factor in your stock vesting in addition to the 50k.
If you like wlb then MS is the place. If monetary loss holding you back then couple of things you can consider: 1.) delay the joining at Apple till you get your joining and stocks 2.) ask Apple to buy back your ms benefits
Can you elaborate option 2?
Tell Apple you’re losing so much $$ by leaving early and if they can compensate. Worst case they’ll say no, but you got nothing to lose
I declined Apple. RTO sucks. You’re not really a PM at Apple, more like project managing.
This is true OP. I have heard this from a lot of people on blind
What do PMs do if they don't manage projects? Honest question. But yeah, OP, I do not envy anyone working as EPM at Apple. It's a stressful job, you MUST be commanding and have good charisma as it gets political between teams. EPM is a thankless job at Apple. At least you're being paid well.
That tough. Since u are a PM, see what product excites you the most and in which product you think you can contribute more.
Also consider “which manager u like better”.
Ask for counter at ms
I am on H1B. So I can’t go back to Microsoft and ask to match Apple offer. If Microsoft asks me to leave, then I will be jobless until Apple files my H1B or worst offer retract.
What part of Apple? Do you have preference on kind of work you like and whether that is at Microsoft or Apple?
Apple: we have PMs??? Microsoft: what do PMs do??? I will let you decide where you wanna be lol
Can you ask apple to wait 5 months?
Optimize for your happiness. It could mean more money or other factors. Optimize for that.
Tough call