CompensationApr 1, 2018
CiscoTNqc58

Should I take Amazon sde2 offer

Location bay area. Currently senior technical leader in cisco making close to 300k. Total experience is 14 years and 6 year s in USA. Got verbal offer from Amazon in bay area for sde2. Almost 20 percent less pay based on initial verbal offer and that too seems like a upper end of sde2. Should I even negotiate? Appreciate your help.

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Amazon vcxH82 Apr 1, 2018

Why leave for lesser pay?

Amazon dalejrjr Apr 1, 2018

I guess you could try hitting 300k for an sde2 in Bay area but do you want to? Sde2 is a regular sde position, it would be a demotion probably for you. And you can't expect your TC to grow without AMZN growing a lot in the future.

Apple HgeDI47?5g Apr 1, 2018

So AMZN is offering you a total comp of ~250k? Could you post the breakdown? SDE2 seems like a downgrade from Sr. technical leader and your experience level, but I’m not aware of Cisco’s ladder. Do you have any other offers?

Cisco TNqc58 OP Apr 1, 2018

Was not actively looking. So no other offers. Sr technical leader is equivalent to second level manager.

Amazon dalejrjr Apr 1, 2018

Second level manager at Amazon is L6, the same as SDE3. SDE2 is the level of bottom SDMs. You are being downleveled

Amazon ama64 Apr 1, 2018

Amazon titles are flatter; SDE 2 is a huge range from 3 to 15 years of experience. It is the senior IC role. Once you get to SDE 3 it’s less about coding and more about design.

Apple Cbyc Apr 1, 2018

Don’t be an idiot. He has 14 years of experience. U think too highly of amazon which is known to have low hiring bar.

Cisco lEcG86 Apr 1, 2018

Tech leads 2 in Cisco has got to be at least sde 3 in Amazon.

Amazon Sffvfj Apr 1, 2018

Not worth it. Interview again in a year for L6.

Symantec SymcGsoLay Apr 1, 2018

The offer is just an insult, allowing me to say so without using those four letter words. Amazon didn’t think you are that valuable and the offered level said that idea implicitly.

Apple Cbyc Apr 1, 2018

Yes this is an insult

Amazon Away.throw Apr 1, 2018

You got downleveled. Hard.

Cisco lEcG86 Apr 1, 2018

No way you should take it. Let the recruiter know where to shove the sde2 offer

Cisco archvile Apr 1, 2018

Why take pay cut for Amzn? If it was top startup , it might be worth