Should SDEs deserve 50%+ TC over ProServ?
Lately, I have seen L5/L6 SDE offers that are easily 50% higher than equivalent L5/L6 offers for Professional Services consultants/architects in Big Tech companies - who are expected to be 100% hands on and who pretty much code fulltime. Trying to understand the reasons behind this. What is it that SDEs deliver that customer facing ProServ consultants who code fulltime as part of delivery teams do not? In fact, delivering projects for external customers comes with it's own set of additional pressures and needs customer facing soft skills, which internal SDEs do not have to worry about. So...why the major TC gap for similar skilled engineers in these 2 teams?? Blind Tax: 230k ; MCOL ; 14+ YoE
because AWS sells itself
What's the connection? Neither SDEs nor ProServ engineers "sell" anything. I am talking about solution/delivery engineers here, not presales/sales.
TC or GTFO
Okay, paid the tax!
Why two doctors are paid differently, why two law firms have lawyers with different wages, why financial institutes pay differently? It’s not about the title of the job, it is about the company you work for. Big tech have huge profits and it makes sense to pay a lot to maintain their status. It is about competition.
I think you misunderstood the context. I am talking about same company/division (let's say AWS or GCP or Azure) - valuing an engineer who performs very similar duties (i.e code 🐒 - no offense) very differently.
SDE -> develop things ProServ -> help implementing the developed things by SDE.
And you really believe one is SO much harder and should be valued so much higher than the other? Is implementing a solution with dozens of different integrations/complications that much easier than developing a well defined product feature?
“Well defined product feature” I would like you to take me to that LaLaLand
Just count how many SDEs and solution engines your company has. How many open positions for each category. It’s all about supply and demand.
Simple: if a pro serve consultant fucks up, only one customer is mad. If a swe fucks up, your entire customer base is mad. Besides, if you’re not happy being a consultant, just find a job as an swe if the skills are same.
Okay, this makes some sense. Messing up a mission critical project for a prestigious customer is also serious business...and comes with a lot of pressure?
And I’m sure the consultant handling a 20% revenue customer gets paid more than .1% revenue customer (or has a higher level).
Mover over if you think that it pays well
Just trying to understand differences in roles/expectations/complexities/value these 2 groups of engineers provide. I am not in ProServ myself. Just asking for a friend :-)
Service teams impact all AWS customers that use that service. ProServe only impacts a single enterprise customer at a time. You get paid for the value of your impact.
Product vs Post Sales The same reason why WITCH company pays bad as they are pretty much ProServ Company performance is linked to is\s product and solutions Implementation of a solution runs on very thin margin Example : 1 AWS service once developed can keep generating revenue for years to come , 1 proServ implementation on customer end has a fixed price and once you deliver it you work in not recurring revenue , hence paid less
Because SDE’s share their TC and proserv consultants don’t! So start with sharing your TC!
Fineee! Happy?!