Google hires more ppl outside of silicon valley than they inside of sv due to high real estate costs in the bay area. This guy predicts not many companies will remain here.
Are you guys willing to relocate somewhere else? Cause I cant survive with Intel Salary in the bay area anymore. Im gtfo starting from 2018 to Seattle
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- The weather hasn't been an issue for us. Far better than the East Coast, which is where I am from. Much milder winters (e.g. it's only snowed three times on Christmas in the last 100 years). Gorgeous, gorgeous summers.
Yes, it's not CA's all around year warm semi-desert climate. But most places aren't.Dec 28, 2017 2
- Amazon ElfAmazing that tech companies pay high wages for people, we are the smart ones, but not smart enough to fix this broken system, more homeless, less affordable housing (purchase or rent), people are displaced, the companies that are causing this problem are the companies we want to work or we working, but is not our fault we say, we are just a tiny piece of the system causing this problem, we are lucky compare to the rest of the population (I’m talking about the world), hot shower, hot food, a roof are not enough, we want more and more, new iPhone, new crap, when a tech company opens a office in x place we see the same pattern: wages, rent and cost of living rise, I saw medium/small business in Bay Area and Seattle closing because: “they can not afford to pay the rent”, we are going to be 8 billion humans soon, but we don’t care, the rat race is real and we are part of the problem.
- Microsoft **Ptr++Yes, but that’s just one part of the equation. Seattle salaries are lower. Opportunities are significantly lower compared to Valley. So there might be some short term savings but you will end up losing more in the long term. Don’t base decisions purely on $. Most personal tax provisions of this bill expires in 2025-2026. Also, it’s called sunshine tax for a reason. You underestimate the contribution of the great CA weather on your overall wellbeing.Dec 29, 2017 1
- Akamai Technologies wePD25I wonder if some of these people head to the Boston area. Taxes and housing are much lower than California but it still has a vibrant tech scene and economy.
- Adobe cjEh51Utah is growing at a crazy rapid rate. Lots of unicorns and big players like adobe
- Intel NoFearCarolinas are seeing a lot of growth as well... Cheap power, cheap cost of living and real estate, good tax breaks for corps creating jobs, etc... FB, Google, Microsoft, IBM, Cisco, NetApp, DellEMC, lots of biotechnology and research firms and Amazon all have a presence. Not a bad place to have a tech career outside of the West coast and SV, or Texas and Boston.. Major Florida Cities and Atlanta are also decent SE USA tech markets.
- New / Ops Batman33moreNC isn't really that bad and the cities are super progressive. Just a much larger rural population there. I do agree with the driving thing but I didn't grow up in a city like NY so that's normal to me. Raleigh has had a pretty consistent and good tech community for the last 30 years. Decent amount of meetups/tech scene, affordable real estate, ok taxes. Having lived in California I'd say I definitely enjoy living here more.Dec 29, 2017 2
- Twitch lolzeBay Area is indeed becoming prohibitively expensive to raise a family. But I would rather downsize and live minimally than move to a less progressive, less weather friendly, more polluted, dirtier water supply, or less agriculturally diverse alternative
- I would strongly advise against moving to Seattle. I moved from the bay area and regret it.
Weather really sucks. Depressed people everywhere. Traffic is 10x bad than bay with i-5 always jammed.
Most terrible drivers in the country. If it rains there will be slowdown on the highway. So that's like 9 months of the year.
People argue muh mountains, but it's not worth it.
I would rather live in a sunny/expensive town than a little cheap/bad weather one.
- Good to know its working for you. I like hiking but not into skiing. I have lost a lot of vitamin D since moving to Seattle. OTC drugs don't work for me. There is not much to do in Seattle tbh.
@Rhva38 - I lived in peninsula. Bart would get me into downtown in 40 minutes for 15 miles. Here, I spend 50 min or more for under 10 miles.
Employment opportunities are also limited in Seattle with amazon and msft only big corps. FB and Goog are catching up, but the presence is still very small.
- Amazon aeCj31When did we start to define “coast cities” as only NY, LA, SF, Boston? Seems odd that he was defining a mass migration away from coastal cities to... Seattle, Portland, Florida, Houston?
- He said quote 12/28: "More people will move to Seattle, in part driven by tax reform. Many will be from California"
I guess he meant coastal hubs which Seattle isn't... Yet.
https://www.geekwire.com/2017/redfins-glenn-kelman-predicts-mass-tech-exodus-coastal-cities/Dec 28, 2017 0