Tech IndustryMay 10, 2022
GoogleToys R Us

Snap L4 vs DoorDash E5. Which one would you pick?

Snap L4 vs DoorDash E5. Which one would you pick? Please! Please don’t vote for the one with the higher comp. Please comment your reason if you can. DD TC - $440k Snap TC - ~$400k DD pros: - Higher level - Stock at lowest since IPO - Quarterly results have been good since last two quarters and business seems to be doing great DD Cons: - ex-Amazon manager - Doesn’t sound as “cool” as working at Snap - two-year refresher grant doesn’t seem great but better at stacking then Snap’s which doesn’t stack (anyone curious about this, search on Blind, trying to keep off-topic discussion to a minimum on this thread. - WLB horror stories on Blind - it’s remote for now but might have to move to the Bay Area if DD calls everyone back in - some other cons I might be missing? Snap pros: - LA-based and potentially remote. - engineering culture in general sounds better than DD. - stock is quite low. - Perks better than DD (not sure about this, can someone shed any light on this?). - a “cooler” company to work for than DD Snap cons: - a level lower (although the two overlap, “senior” is just better, no?) - quarterly results seem like hit or miss, not sure about the financial health - 10% announced PIP - about $40k less comp - no stacking refreshers - Snap employees on Blind often point to the long time to promo to L5 Yoe: 9 TC: $350k Don’t ask about this, I’m a late bloomer. #snap #doordash #offer #comparison #decision #tech

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Salesforce sfjason May 10, 2022

Poll? Tc wise, Google is not so bad, why leave? Do you want to sacrifice wlb for <100k bump?

Google Toys R Us OP May 10, 2022

Done.

Google Toys R Us OP May 10, 2022

Good question. Upcoming cliff. It’s going to be terrible next year. The difference will be about $200k

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Google Toys R Us OP May 10, 2022

Done, good sir.

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proukraine May 10, 2022

snap stock is not too low imo

Microsoft todaycom May 10, 2022

DD for sure, snap looks like downleveled. Also 10% pip will increase in recession + layoff history.

Snap uith9 May 10, 2022

As expected, this msft person comments on Snap related post without missing a beat. For the nth time, it's not 10% pip. @Op : Do you think that according to Google's new GRAD policy, it has 8% pip?

Snap CWto35 May 10, 2022

lmao this Microsoft guy. 10% pip is not real.

Bloomberg kIpg68 May 10, 2022

This is a difficult one. I got same Snap offer with 4 yoe(and couldnt have been happier). However, wouldnt join any company under L5 with 9yoe. Maybe try for Doordash for a year or so and give another shot for L5/L6 levels including Snap?

Google Toys R Us OP May 10, 2022

What’s your Snap offer breakdown if you don’t mind? I mean base, RSU, sign-on and yearly bonus? Thanks for commenting.

Amazon 👋amzn May 12, 2022

The offers are pretty standard at Snap. 170-185k base, 178k/year RSU, 50k sign-on/3 (if you have any competing offers)

Quora siTe17 May 10, 2022

Pick good manager. Always.

Google Toys R Us OP May 10, 2022

Yes I agree. Snap, yet to team match, so not sure.

Apple justdoit. May 10, 2022

The manager at DD might be good. Can’t generalize just because they are from Amazon!

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proukraine May 10, 2022

Are you L4 @ google? Why do you want to leave?

Google Toys R Us OP May 10, 2022

Cliff. Huge TC drop.

Snap kslairas May 10, 2022

So you’ve been at google for 3+ years? And you couldn’t get to L5. You are probably good at L4 so take Snap in that case.

Snap uith9 May 10, 2022

@Op: Don't take Snap l4 from Google L5. It will likely count as one of your stupidest decisions ever. Your system design performance mustn't be great for you to be downleveled. Ignore DD offer and try Snap L5 again next year. It pays ~560k. By that time, you would have hopefully withered recession storm.

Google Toys R Us OP May 10, 2022

Nope I’m not L5. Just newly promoted L4

Snap uith9 May 10, 2022

In that case, go for DD. Snap promo process is weird and unpredictable.

Oracle oci43 May 10, 2022

Can you share what was system design and coding questions difficulty level with DD? Have a incoming interview.

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proukraine May 10, 2022

Go somewhere without downleveling yourself, then go back to Goog as L5 or L6.

Google Toys R Us OP May 10, 2022

No, it’s not a downlevel.