Got some offers TikTok : ~333k 2-1 Snap: L4 (expecting more than tik tok given levels.fyi but scared about recruiter ghosting/rescinding) YOE3 TC: 180 I value WLB, career growth, comp in that order. Any thoughts? #tech #snap #tiktok #offer Edit: took snap :) see ya in bitmoji land. LC grind FTW, hard work pays off.
Recently turned down an offer for TikTok. The application process was messy. Alot of late meetings, rescheduling, or completely people just didn't show up. Regardless pushed through and received a decent offer. Overall I turned it down because of how chaotic the process felt and the multitude of bad reviews I see and hear.
Damn, TikTok offers are getting higher. They were capped at 300k for 2-1 originally. Is this including signing bonus? Nice thing about TikTok is that you can choose your cash/RSU split. Company also has more potential than Snap. TikTok is not worth it if your team frequently talks to China. Figure that out, because that is what kills WLB at TikTok. If you don't talk to China much, you're golden. TikTok has more potential for career growth. More greenfield projects and opportunities to lead.
it is dependent on china, it is with sign on, without sign on it's still greater than 300k, recruiter said they maxed me out, which honestly props to them amazing interviewing exp + offer
Did you have any other offers already? How did you negotiate that?
I don’t think value WLB and Tiktok go in the same sentence
TikTok has lots of upside potential, good for growth, but wlb is highly dependent on team and who you work with, as @TikTok mentioned above. Snap is kinda capped in terms of growth IMO, relevant because of nudes. But who am I to say, I like both companies.
you username doesn't bring a lot of confidence to the wlb scenario lol, I guess we'll see what numbers snap throws at me. Thanks for your input
If you value Comp the least and WLB the most why on the world are you interviewing for companies known to have intense work culture?
I'm at amazon. It's like going from standing in a volcano and then going to florida to say "it's hot!"
Must be in AWS or something cause it’s quite chill here in the Prime orgs. Should have changed teams. Anyway if you expecting WLB at either company you will be disappointed. TikTok has Chinese work culture and likely worse than AWS.
Congrats @op!! Is it for bay area?
thanks! not bay area :)
Dont pick up tiktok if you value wlb
why?
stay away from tiktok, never had my mental and physical health suffer like this. just not worth it
What team are you from?
My team and even org is too small to say without risk, sorry. Some things are the same regardless of team though. Performance and career growth is a black box, WLB varies for people but it’s very bad across the board. 996 is real (officially not, but people still do it). Even if it’s not enforced on us team it is real for china team and most teams will have to work with china at some point. If you don’t speak mandarin you are at a huge disadvantage and many critical docs do not have english translation. Manager and recruiter mislead me on working hours and challenges of non chinese speaker the only good news is i’m learning a lot fast, but because i’m working insane hours… if you have other options stay away, i wish I listened to the shit I read on blind
OP what is your snap offer? Just wondering cuz I'm in the same situation rn. Thanks!
370 tc, joined snap, love it here
Thanks so much OP!! I assume you are a SWE position... is 370 yr1 or minus the quick vest sign on? They extended me the L4 PM offer at 270k (minus the quick vest), and unwilling to negotiation up. :/ Thoughts?
Both are sweatshops but TikTok is straight up 996. I would take SNAP.