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I have a offer from Microsoft for l66 and currently senior manager at Deloitte. Reason for change : lifestyle change (no travel as just had another baby and have really young family).. Need some slowdown in work. My Deloitte leadership has counter that with giving me option to only do travel once per month for next few years. Now that my biggest reason Is gone I am bit confused on joining Microsoft. Deloitte long run may be good option once I get to MD (4-5 years), Microsoft salary package is good 400k TC TO 280 TC at Deloitte. My question, to help me decide .. can someone provide me context on growth success rate at Microsoft and what an average growth looks like in Microsoft after 5-6 year ? Salary? Promotion ? Opportunity? Any advice will be helpfull.
Maybe just me, but mgmt consulting has left a bad taste in my mouth. Go Microsoft.
100% Microsoft. No question
Maybe it’s just me but I don’t trust companies. “You can travel once a month for a few years” is so vague. And in a few years are you going to want to see your family less? Take the 40% raise and bounce.
Senior manager to partner is the hardest jump, which is why SM is such a tough role (you need to have really performance and do a ton of sales). Not sure it’s worth sticking around D for that, especially if you need to have good WLB for the next few years.
Challenge I have is that I have been really successful at Deloitte for past 5 years and have really great chance of getting to PPMD level in next 2 year(have good pipeline and great sales so far) because of the network and brand in the firm, but as you mentioned it is killing my WLB and trusting leader to let me slow down without impacting my growth is tough. But risk with joining Microsoft is I have not worked in tech before (all 13 years in consulting (2 companies)) so not sure how long it will take me to build brand and grow within Microsoft.
Makes it a much tougher decision then. I guess the question is, when you reach PPMD, then what? I’m not sure WLB gets better when you become a partner. At that point you’re hunting for sales on your own and would likely need to travel to clients, especially if you own those relationships. It also depends on what role you’re taking at MS. Performance in consulting is much more based on relationship management /sales skills. In real (non-sales) tech, it’s much more about *realized* impact. So the skills that make someone succeed in consulting might not translate to the same degree of success in tech. Your best bet is to talk to buddies/former coworkers who have made a similar switch you’re thinking of. Blind is very biased towards faang (since SWEs are first class citizens big tech compared to 2nd class in IB and consulting). But if you are truly 2 years away from PPMD, the considerations are different for you. So this might not be the right forum for your particular situation.
L66 at MSFT dor sure
I feel like the lifestyle change reason made this a no brainer
Deloitte is shit. Worked on their MissionGraph project and I hated it. Was happy to leave previous company where I was a consultant so that I never had to work there ever again. Deloitte is where tax dollars go to die. Go Microsoft
What do you do at deloitte? Which LOB?
Deloitte consulting — enterprise operations — SCNO (Supply chain & ops )
Gotcha, hard call. I am not sure you'll make the partner cut if you cut back on the travel hustle unfortunately. That MS role is big comp right now though. Game changing comp increase.
Can someone ELI5 why this is not as completely obvious as I would think it is?
It sounds like Op could make partner or managing director in 2 years (given their fast growth at Deloitte). Partners can clear 1+ mil (and perhaps significantly more if they’re good at sales). The opportunity to join as a partner is rare. You can’t just leave Deloitte and then return, and expect to be on the same track (it would take several years as an senior manager again to rebuild the internal and client relationships for OP to be supported for partnership). By leaving, OP could potentially be giving up a opportunity that they couldn’t just reclaim by boomeranging back. That being said, the consulting life style sucks and consulting as an industry is losing its luster a bit. OP needs to decide if it’s really for them. To become a partner you need to pay a lot of money to “buy in” to the partnership. So if this is the route OP takes and is lucky enough to get partnership, they should be prepared to be wedded to the firm for...a really time/forever. All in all, there are some high stakes pro/con to staying with Deloitte that need to be carefully considered.
Msft - also make it a poll