Hey folks, I have two offers in hand that I’m considering. But I’m also considering to stay at MS. Retention offer has been very generous (promo to L65 with lots of special stock/cash awards to “match” the external offers). My current level is L64 and I have will have 5 yoe in couple months. I first really love working with my manager/leadership and its vice versa for them. I’ve got a great career trajectory at MS but I feel like I am missing out if I don’t challenge myself in a new environment. Current macro-economic situation is also making me leaning towards staying at MS but I also see a bright outlook for $SQ (at current stock price) and much more interesting tech problems at Snap. Leaving MS would also mean a relocation which I don’t mind. It is really boiling down to maintaining a good relationship with my current management and keep growing vs challenging myself to start from the scratch and earn my place and grow from there. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance Ps unsure about SQ’s bonus so left it out
Which team?
Azure core and Infra/Backend for both snap and sq
Personally I’d take Block, but they rejected me.
Snap removed bonus system recently
Who said. ? They are adding that to base.
Everyone at Snap knows. That's why the base is already 230k.
It’s more important to figure out whether you want to move to New York or stay in Seattle.
NY sucks if you’re above 30 and married + kids. The decision is between party life (NY) or family life (Seattle).
let’s connect. I’m a 4 yoe L6 at block too. Love it here, but if I were you I’d take the retention offer for the job and stock security.
I thought Square was pretty stable?
Anymore layoffs planned at MS? Just trying to guess if they would target you being on high pay (with the retention offer).
Based on what my m2/m3 told me, highly unlikely unless the entire org gets dissolved which is not likely in the near future
Bonus at Snap 🤨
Recruiters claim 10% bonus.
BS, no annual bonus
how come Snap is giving L5 with 5yoe? That I am suprised
I insisted on L5, they refused and interviewed for L4. But ended up doing really well so did another sys design interview and got the L5 offer
You seem like you are in a potential fast track to partner at Microsoft. Do you want to give that up?
Didn’t even know ms can do that for 5 yoe.
Felt the exact same. I was ready to pick between SQ and Snap
Principal Engineer with 5 YOE??