GooglegHan56

Stay clear of Alibaba

People love catching a falling knife. Not predicting where BABA is gonna go, but you should understand a few things before investing in it. 1. There is no limit on government power in China. If they don’t like your game/app etc, boom it’s delisted. They can seize your asset, make you disappear... anything goes. Nothing you can do about it. Also, if you own BABA, you are not buying ownership in Alibaba. Look it up. Not saying it would happen, but if government takes over it, you have no recourse. None. 2. CCP announcing investigations is almost as good as conviction. Look up Chinese court conviction rates. CCP controls gov, judiciary, regulators etc literally everything. It’s not like US, where some institution investigates, argues in front of another neutral institution, and getting a verdict. If CCP announce anything, you can take it to bank, that’s how it is gonna go down. People invest in Chinese stonks with US assumptions like property rights. Big mistake. Government’s absolute power can help you if your stonk choice is also a CCP favour, eg certain Chinese ev companies. Play safe peeps.

Bloomberg AAEA72 Dec 24, 2020

CCP needs Alibaba as much as Alibaba needs the CCP

LinkedIn MadDriver Dec 24, 2020

True.

Google gHan56 OP Dec 24, 2020

For sure. they’re not gonna throw it into toilet. But, they can break it up, take over chunks etc. Lots of options that preserves what gov wants but not necessarily good for investors.

Atlassian TC>>🙃 Dec 24, 2020

I'd avoid any Chinese stock. Risk reward ratio isn't good imo. China is a heavily controlled and manipulated country. Invest in companies that actually operate under democracy.

Google gHan56 OP Dec 24, 2020

It doesn’t even have to be democracy. Basic property rights, so that people can’t just take your shit, judiciary that can say no to government is good enough IMO.

Amazon apollo35 Dec 24, 2020

I don’t disagree with you, but I think China may make you see property right in different way in 15 years. Property right keeping resources in wrong hands (1%) is bad for everyone, including the 1%. It would be even worse if the 1% are foreigners (I’m talking to you, former colonies)

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SaBx22 Dec 24, 2020

The best time to buy is when there is blood on the streets.

Google caffee Dec 24, 2020

En route to 0 baby

Google baby grogu Dec 24, 2020

are you chinese?

Google gHan56 OP Dec 24, 2020

Yes

Microsoft ju80lfes%# Dec 24, 2020

Write something in Chinese

Roblox VuxG87 Dec 24, 2020

Time to buy PDD. Actually it is already a bit late.

Google gHan56 OP Dec 24, 2020

It could actually benefit if BABA crashes and burns. It’s already chipping away a lot from Tmall etc

Roblox VuxG87 Dec 24, 2020

Its growth is much faster than baba and GMV is higher than Taobao. The sad thing is that their stonk already grown a lot.

Amazon realbezos Dec 24, 2020

Let Alibaba go down, and from the ashes, Amazon will rise.

Roblox VuxG87 Dec 24, 2020

Do they compete in any market?

Citadel SOGP Dec 24, 2020

They compete for the "A" in FAANG.

Yelp MYQr43 Dec 24, 2020

Thank you. All in BABA now

Google gHan56 OP Dec 24, 2020

I’d be impressed if you’re actually all in

Microsoft ju80lfes%# Dec 24, 2020

Yelp are you Chinese?

Morgan Stanley abathur Dec 24, 2020

🙁👀

Microsoft d38sd Dec 24, 2020

I generally don't touch Chinese stocks for the reasons you mentioned and also because accounting fraud is rife, but I threw 4k on calls 3 months out.

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SaBx22 Dec 24, 2020

Same here, YOLO on Feb opex.

Microsoft d38sd Dec 24, 2020

$220

Apple lSDv41 Dec 24, 2020

Call me BABA