https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/amazon-microsoft-stealing-oracles-business-jpmorgan
Excellent news!
Fuck Oracle.
Aren't they paying their Cloud engineers like crazy? I guess money doesn't buy quality.
Why so salty?
Here’s the thing, people/media/street are comparing apples and oranges (and I blame Oracle for not making this distinction clear, and even thinking that they can realistically compete - reality check: they can’t, as the capex gap is far to wide now for *anyone* to catch up with AWS/Azure). They should be comparing them more to Salesforce IMO. What Oracle is doing is targeting a very niche field and set of customers. Their “cloud” is just about putting their CRM/HRM/DB services somewhere customers don’t have to manage, upgrade, and host them. Customer IaaS (VMs) which is a huge part of AWS and Azure, is a nice aside from where the data is stored. The other side of their business is on-prem “cloud”, which neither AWS or Azure do well (although Azure has AzureStack, which is getting better and better). As for paying people more, they have to - it’s a huge risk for anyone joining there, and not in contention otherwise. I’ve said this on other posts - Oracle is trying to “fast start” and catch up, through acquisitions but much of what they need to do isn’t for sale, so they “buy” people with some experience instead. They may not be the A+ players from other places, but they don’t need to be - it’s not cutting-edge, million+ node infra that needs to be developed/managed - so patterns and experience that have been gained from 1-3yrs ago is still valuable there.
Well said. I'd also add that it wasn't a while ago when Microsoft was suffering in similar way until they figured the cloud is the way to go. It took Microsoft many years before it started paying off even though AWS owned the market at that point. Execution is what's important - either Oracle does it right or it fails. As you mentioned - there is no need to compete head to head. Each company has their own niche. Time will show as it's too early to judge any actions taken by Oracle so far.
Microsoft was exactly in this place 10yrs ago. No-one thought they had a future, had crappy management, and people considered it a “bad” place to work (when I joined I was told it was career suicide). Companies have to learn how to pivot, and old-guard leadership eventually leave. If they don’t, the ones we talk about (eg IBM as well) don’t go quickly or quietly, and the people + remains of tech/customers always get picked up.
Oracle sucks
Way to go there Twitter. I know you are used to short, pithy, statements only being limited to 140 characters for soooo long, but how about contributing to the conversation or taking a seat and letting the adults talk.
Why so salty softee- I used to work at OPC and it sucks, period. And yes you write bad code - that why you still at Microsoft?
When did we start patent trolling? I thought that was he only thing oracle was doing at this point
nice