Office LifeSep 16, 2019
Wix.comTcEs77

Swearing at the workplace

I'm working in an established team with friendly relationships and from time to time we use tough language. Like, "this is the f**k up, bulls**t", etc. We work in a separate room, so noone can hear us and has any complaints. Recently, we've hired a new team member and after a while we've started to receive escalations to our manager that we use inappropriate language at the workplace. Everyone thinks that this guy is reporting us, while he remains silent and doesn't ask us anything directly. While I agree that it is inappropriate, as I said, we almost like friends and have some established culture, perhaps not the best culture, but still. And now we need to behave like super polite white collars, which is not so comfortable as it was, because that one guy. Is this guy oversensitive and not a cultural fit for us, our our team should learn to keep their mouths shut?

Booking.com XqBM21 Sep 16, 2019

well a mature thing would be to talk to the person directly and ask whether he’s uncomfortoble with this and why. i guess it’s just sad that someone would be reporting higher up without having a discussion with their peers first.

Salesforce oolala Sep 16, 2019

He might be intimidated. Or offended or both. Managers fault. He needs to be upfront with the new guy about the culture before he joins. Not just the pleasant aspects of it.

Boeing WSJ🤭 Sep 16, 2019

it's both. yes, he's a tool. but where verbal language and written comms are concerned, y'all have no choice but to play by the strict rules. ... or risk HR/legal bullshit. beyond that, you have a couple choices... sith: set him up to fail /frame him / get everyone to strictly monitor & report on his sub-par performance. jedi: try to get to know him. try to understand. be compassionate n empathetic n shit. learn what makes him tick. maybe there's a win-win scenario... where yall bend toward him and he bends toward yall and the TEAM can succeed together. ? maybe ?

Spotify Atinlay3 Sep 16, 2019

Do the sithful and be a man

Google UWOM24 Sep 16, 2019

Maybe he is being framed?

Oracle fky$49&$6 Sep 16, 2019

Swearing at work is not appropriate, it’s a recipe for HR case.

Boeing WSJ🤭 Sep 16, 2019

i swear like a motherfucker. it makes the white men respect me.

Booking.com DonMindMe Sep 16, 2019

This is bullshit. Swearing at work is fine. Saying things like 'shits fucked' or 'what the fuck is this shit' is fine. Calling someone s stupid shit is different. People who get offended by indirect swearing need to re evaluate their life priorities

Ipreo qaIG18 Sep 16, 2019

Don't directly confront the guy. If it is him that means the behavior disturbs him so much that he's not comfortable basking you to knock it off. Ask your manager to meet with ALL of you to talk through some team boundaries. Honestly if the guy has reported several team members over this then he might not be a good fit.

VMware doof_s Sep 16, 2019

The latter. Keep your mouths shut . Swearing is not appropriate whether it's the public setting or the workplace or your home .

Wix.com TcEs77 OP Sep 16, 2019

I think it is my own business to swear or not at my home, or in the circle of friends if it does not offend them in some way.

Boeing WSJ🤭 Sep 16, 2019

doof - is this a troll or are u for real?

Google d3j88wq Sep 16, 2019

I think swearing is completely innocuous, as long as it's not directed at someone ("this is the fuck up" is fine, "fuck you" isn't). This is also the majority view at Google. But I guess many companies still have a problem with "bad words", regardless of context. I guess if your manager thinks all swearing is inappropriate there isn't much you can do other than stop. I would avoid any sort of retaliation against the new teammate. Retaliation is just childish and vindictive.

Wix.com TcEs77 OP Sep 16, 2019

I have a feeling that my manager would agree with what you said, but he just doesn't want problems and higher level escalations. Confronting the guy directly is not an option, since he wants to remain anonymous. And I doubt that we can solve this problem in a win-win manner.

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SkoobySnac Sep 16, 2019

If your company has a culture where you guys can communicate in a manner that's open and expressive then you aren't doing anything wrong. The new person unfortunately isn't fitting into the culture as you mentioned. Your manager needs to step explain to that person that the culture within specific teams is expressive and he doesn't micro manage adult language and if this person isn't comfortable with it then they can find a new or different team for that person to join. You can't disrupt a teams productive and healthy culture of (x) amount of ppl because someone new is joining in. It's the managers job to place that person in a group/team with a cultural fit to their personality. Disrupting your teams workflow because this person doesn't like the langue is ridiculous.

Twitter jkkugdyh Sep 16, 2019

Using this kind of language is a micro aggression and is the reason for sexist and racist workplaces.

Wix.com TcEs77 OP Sep 16, 2019

Sorry, but how does the phrase "we fucked up" relate to racism and sexism?

Twitter jkkugdyh Sep 16, 2019

Creates a hostile work environment for non bro minorities that are likely to be underrepresented gender and racial groups

Uber Bruh! Sep 16, 2019

Just stop the cussing. My previous manager was a cusser and everyone thought he was a tool. You come across as immature and have low EQ.

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‘ AND 1=1 Sep 16, 2019

What’s an EQ?

Roku cruella Sep 16, 2019

Emotional quotient. Though they should have said CQ. Conversation quotient.

Taylor Farms azerty_ Sep 16, 2019

He is overly sensitive. You don’t need him on your team. Report him to HR