Blocksq_noob

TC ~360K. How can I get paid more?

Product data scientist. Current TC 300-360K, depending upon stock price. STEM PhD. 7 YOE as data scientist/senior data scientist at 2nd tier companies with billions in market capitalization (not FAANG). Should I: Go for a DS manger position at FAANG (more managerial) Or Go the route towards Applied Scientist/Machine learning focused DS at FAANG (more technical/maths) Thoughts?

Instacart cv_2022 Nov 11, 2023

Frankly not sure how you can move around or up in this market

Block sq_noob OP Nov 11, 2023

Still trying though - I think most FAANG or L6 positions at FAANG pay a solid 400K or above

Lyft TC > Yours Nov 18, 2023

You aren't going to get an L6 FAANG role with 7 YOE

Instacart cv_2022 Nov 11, 2023

I would say a third way to do it is moving to a company that pays a lot for analytics/general data scientists. Might be easier than the 2 ways you mentioned depending on what you are good at.

Block sq_noob OP Nov 11, 2023

Hmmm like what’s an example of such a position

Instacart cv_2022 Nov 11, 2023

Netflix, Meta (a lot of L5 got paid $400k after a couple years), Instacart (L6, which is equivalent of L6 at square, get paid $450k). And I heard staff at linkedin got paid ~$400k.

Uber chucklee Nov 11, 2023

Are you a team lead or manager right now ?

Block sq_noob OP Nov 12, 2023

I was a DS manager for a while at a tech start up 1.5 years ago, managing team of 3. I can “function” as a team lead because I come up with new ideas of work to do, size them for financial impact, and then convince people (Eng/product/etc) it’s something we should do, and my ideas get regularly added to annual planning. But no my official title is IC senior product DS L6

Amazon dopplersea Nov 11, 2023

Roblox? Their pay is high too How’s your day to day as Product DS? Any ML involved or is it purely analytics

Block sq_noob OP Nov 12, 2023

It’s purely experimentation and analytics. But I am fully capable of the ML stuff as well - understanding the math behind it is not a problem for me as my PhD work was very algorithm/optimization heavy. I’ve also built and deployed ML pipelines early in my career at a large tech company but then moved over to product DS. Yeah maybe I’ll take a crack at Roblox

Roblox surfthenet Nov 13, 2023

We have some senior open roles. Can confirm we’re paid well.

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Block sq_noob OP Nov 13, 2023

HCOL but not SF

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Block sq_noob OP Nov 13, 2023

“senior”

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BARD. Nov 17, 2023

HFT firms.

Wells Fargo vat69 Nov 17, 2023

What location u r in?

Google Inpn86 Nov 17, 2023

Once you hit $360k for senior, I’m at $430k for senior, it makes more sense to focus on getting promoted to either DS manager, if those aren’t lateral at your company, or staff ds. Preferably it is a diagonal move to a better paying company and higher role. However at this level and pay you want to be careful about bouncing around too much. Moving forward you need to demonstrate ability to drive projects that are fairly high on the priority list of senior leaders and that relationship building takes most people time.

Block sq_noob OP Nov 17, 2023

Very solid advice thanks!

Netflix Kajfudnahw Nov 17, 2023

Join Netflix

Block sq_noob OP Nov 17, 2023

Im so ready for this but Netflix won’t give me a damn interview for some reason

Netflix uJhQ03 Nov 17, 2023

Agreed