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I am looking at PM roles at the trade desk and found a staff PM role. I am currently an L6 PM (google, meta) but wanted to understand how staff pm at trade desk maps to google/meta PM levels. Any info here will be really helpful TC: $450k #tradedesk #google #meta #productmanager #product #pm #level
Yoe? Why leave to work at tradedesk
Ive heard some good things about the company recently and that it is growing
I wouldn't recommend it.
Can you elaborate why?
TTD desperately wants the world to think of it as the champion for the "Open Internet", but the firm doesn't even care about its own. We have been going through silent layoffs for about 2 years now. Senior management rejects the claim, but almost everyone I know have seen multiple great performers suddenly get cut despite winning awards, or getting consistently top performance reviews, etc. Some of the cuts were even made even without the manager's knowledge until it was done. For a company the size of Google, sure it could happen, but to see it at a company the size of TTD (3.5k), it's pathetic. So as a result, a lot of the SVPs and VPs (especially the external hires that were brought on in the last 1-2 years) focus a lot on politics rather than getting anything done. Very strong yes man culture here that requires you to be part of the boys club. Product org is a particularly weak one where their SVP has been basically kicked down the ladder in my view, now reporting to one of his direct reports who now reports to the CEO. Most of the entry/mid-level are hardworking and nice, if not a bit naive, but senior management will not hesitate to play politics or terminate reports to cover for their own mistakes (like they have for plenty of people the past 2 years already). Morale has been very low, even with our annual party/Palooza where execs dish out the yearly kool-aid. It is a shame the senior/exec level is absolutely horrid. They are just seniors by rank, not leaders.
Don’t get into the lure of growth that is promised. All sorts of problems have appeared in last two years as we have no clue how to position ourselves. Third party cookies is going away which is going to make a dent. All our eggs are in one basket of open internet which basically means let us make some money it is not democratisation of ad revenue in any significant capacity. It is circumventing privacy restrictions that are coming up. No one is giving two fucks about it.
Yup this guy knows what's up. The fact that we stopped making bottom line guarantees to a lot of companies when selling them on UID2 is telling that even our senior leaders don't have confidence in it. Not willing to put money where the mouth is.
if you are considering coming in from Google/Meta to TTD, two things : 1. at TTD, Google/Meta levels don't matter. TTD level decisions are driven more by YOE, location and where you come from. So, if you have 10+ YOE, you can be anywhere between Staff and Principal and even lead a team. with 15+ YOE, you may be anywhere between Sr. Staff to Director. 2. If you are coming in from Google/Meta, you won't like PM org at TTD at all. Its bunch of old school Microsoft folks (pre-2015 era) and the PM org is more about program / project management and a lot less about product management. Its mostly a "yes boss" culture where the CEO decides the roadmap and PMs work with engineering to get it delivered. a lot of PMs in the PM org are not even technical or any software engg background. few of them are internal transfers from sales or client facing teams. If you are coming in for the money, then just keep the head down, don't ask questions, follow the instructions, avoid leadership meetings.
Absolutely do not join TTD if you want a healthy and fulfilling work atmosphere. No amount of money is worth your peace of mind. The work itself is low impact, monotonous, and not mentally stimulating.
Why trade desk? Is it a great company to work for?
Yes, it has achieved GPTW status, like a star on the Walk of Fame. Lots of ex-MSFT in leadership who have created their own paradise with shared lessons learned and beliefs about scrum, the PM and UX roles, value of testing, feedback, stack ranking, and transparency. Don’t assume words have the same meanings as they do at other places. Words like Agile, Scrum, and PM do not, because they have been shaped by the culture into entirely different models, as often happens at companies that grow quickly. Personally, I carried my own assumptions onboard, as you do. Letting go of a shared set of expectations about Agile was maybe the hardest transition for me. I did not see it coming, because the terminology was the same but the practices couldn’t be more different.
Hi, Can I DM for referral at Trade desk? I saw a suitable position for my profile.