I moved to Facebook a few months ago from Amazon. It’s much more work than at Amazon and yet I’m loving it! You know why? Because the problem with Amazon isn’t that you have to work a lot. The problem is the toxicity and politics of the large number of really bad people that got hired & stuck around there. When your manager or the people around you are self centered and actively harm others to do what’s best for them, you get affected in a way that’s soul crushing. And Amazon leadership is full of people like this all the way to the top. Even his mom won’t say Bezos is even half decent. Do yourself a favor. No matter how good the offer, use it to negotiate and decline Amazon. If you have to go there, plan to leave soon after using Amazon as a stepping stone. I feel bad for a lot of people at Amazon but a ton of the people there really are bad actors who are out to get you. Some others have developed Stockholm syndrome. Old TC at Amazon: SDE L6, 300k Facebook TC: SWE E5, 411k (+100k sign on)
Okay, so at Facebook it's the same 10% in an org of 150 people that are given MM rating which means you are in danger zone. And 2 back to back MM ratings means you are Pipped. There is no official PIP quota but eventually there are a few folks that do get managed out. One reason why Amazon has become a toxic shit show is because it has ended up with a humongous percentage of visa chained workers (especially from two specific countries) , who have families so they end up playing politics and hire to fire the newbies. So at FACEBOOK it is performance based but in Amazon it's entirely political.
The problem is TC. I’ll take toxicity for 100% tc increase rn
Everyone forgets one main thing - Amazon has a lot of hiring requirements and they hire literally all of them. The quality of talent is shite and those who complain are the ones who can’t cut it or not that talented. Besides that, Amazon has built some of the amazing products. Yes, company may not treat their employees well than other FANGs but in no way they can compare to FB when it comes to PIP.
So what u r saying is that HM has to hire anything that breathes in that door?
Ahh, the honeymoon phase
You are 100% right about Amazon. Amazon has attracted the world's most incompetent shady backstabbing managers. It's a paradise for managers.
Agree with OP. My wlb was fine at amazon (actually much better than Apple) but there was a lot of yelling and incompetence
Tc or gtfo
Added but these are the sort of dicks at Amazon. Everyone take note.
Wtf lol, that's all of blind. Fb + Amazon combination is a unique kind of stupid