Had an offer from Microsoft, Google, and Meta, and the tc were 210k, 320k, 330k. Microsoft offers would be comparable to the other 2 if Microsoft acquired Apple, Google, Meta and become 6T company. This is why talents won’t stay in Microsoft, and the bar is much lower
Level ? Yoe ?
I know, but giving free food with investors money is not fair. I will work at google, but investing is risky.
It’s not about giving free food. When I have free food , it takes the burden away that I don’t have to think about what to cook etc. some days it is such a blessing and we can keep working when we have productive time. (Yes still need to feed kids though)
The mental gymnastics to justify free food when the rest of the world wakes up early, cooks and packs their own food and actually goes to an office to work. Fkng entitled twats.
Yet the company still seems to be doing pretty well
Superb marketing team and strong leadership. I applaud MS for that
And partnership team. MS works enterprise clients tho and tho
One question Microsoft asked was literally fizzbuzz. It was “write a python code that if a number is divisible by 3, print “fizz”, if divisible by 5, print “buzz”, if divisible by both 3 and 5, write “fizzbuzz”. Had 40 minutes to solve
Hello modulus my good friend!
if i%3: print “fizz; elseif i%5: print “buzz”; else print “fizz buzz”
No, you don't know how to negotiate.
Nah, MS pay is shit assuming same level. Only way MS will match is if you get up leveled
My MS offer beat Meta, especially considering stock performance... Same level. So...
Always remember higher the pay 💰 higher the risk! You might choose MSFT and try to stay a little longer.
He’s literally pointing out the opposite.
Why would ever want to take a lower pay for stability unless on a visa
How did you get interview from Microsoft? I always apply online without referrals, I got interviews from Google and Meta, but never heard back from Microsoft
Mostly referral. Similar to Apple
Thanks, Makes sense, since I didn’t get an interview from Apple as well
I think MS only negotiates when you have another offer. Else they lowball pretty good!
I had offers from meta and Google to counter. Msft doesn’t do shit when it comes to negotiation. They were still paying 150 K less a year
Pro remote army has enabled lower cost dev centers to thrive
They are hiring?
They have an internal hiring freeze, also mentioned hiring freeze and still doing layoff rounds…
Hiring freeze yes. At least in my org, there are open / backfill positions, however the level needed to approve such positions is still pretty high, it's not at a level a typical manager can have an influence in the process.
Plz don’t tell me this is new grad
i am ex new grad googler and I have never seen 320k at google for new grad
Were you put into SCI before at Google?