CompensationMay 31, 2019
NewEFca40

Thoughts on PM offer

Company: Series B startup in SF Candidate: PM, 6yoe Role: PM for core product Offer: Base 154k Stock I believe doesn’t matter as much for round B startup Questions: 1. How would you approach negotiating the offer? (I’ve never done that) 2. Is this legit? 3. Have you ever negotiated successfully and what were your levers? Thanks!

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Apple ajja518 May 31, 2019

Low

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EFca40 OP May 31, 2019

What do you think is ok?

Apple ajja518 Jun 1, 2019

Startups only pays base with no bonus and rsu. Equity, sure it counts but not until it goes IPO and also that will get diluted as more investors comes in. which means base is the only thing you can work with. Dont think you can survice with 154k cash a year in SF. Also you have 6 YOE so you should get more. This is more of a Recent College grad salary

Comcast venomous Jun 1, 2019

You can take it but keep interviewing. Not much other way to increase comp than getting multiple offers

AIG Raging Jun 1, 2019

Don't focus on base for Series B. Can help if you can provide this. Which company? Can't comment on legit or not without that. If you can't name it, give some standard metrics such as 1. If Enterprise SaaS then what's the ARR, valuation, etc. 2. If consumer SaaS, then geography, rev model, penetration, TAM, etc. Other info such as: Your employee#, your role, etc.

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EFca40 OP Jun 1, 2019

It’s a marketplace targeting small businesses. 100k customers, tam 30million, subscription. ~60 people. Mostly in states. My bet is that with company growth it can be possible to get into product director position in 1-2y. But the offer seems low tbh, not sure about the best approach to negotiate. I’m interviewing at 4 other companies, but not sure if I get the offer soon enough.

AIG Raging Jun 2, 2019

Best way to negotiate is equity. Try to get at least 0.1-0.15%, depends on who is backing them. On base, the way to think about is ...as long as you have a 2 yr runway with mortgage and car payments between you and your significant other, you're good and can consider base secondary. Think like an owner of a high growth company on this one!

Yahoo Truth Jun 1, 2019

Where was your 6 YOE? Not all experience is equal. If it was in other small unknown companies working on products with low revenue/users, this may be a real offer and you're just - unfortunately - haven't got a real valuable experience yet. If you worked on known products, with reputation of having strong eng teams, real user/revenue impact, than this offer is way too low

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EFca40 OP Jun 1, 2019

Mostly startups, I’ve always thought this experience is more valuable for a pm, much better than working on login only for years at Fb.

Yahoo Truth Jun 1, 2019

Practically I agree, and I started the same way. But unfortunately, there is something unique when you work on products that decisions have serious conferences and demonstrate tell impact that is hard to show with start up experience

Reddit shhsh Jun 1, 2019

I think the base is within range but more on the low end. You should definitely work out the potential upside of your equity (but definitely be prepare that it can worth nothing) I don't think the pay at a series b would ever be competitive to FAANG, so it really depends on what you are looking for in this stage of your career