It seems when Google, Apple, Facebook is looking for contractors, they can offer $80 / hour on W2, or even $71 / hour on W2, and people will bite, because it is like a "dream company to work for". So if there are some programmers that are willing to go for it, they will exploit the person to the fullest. these are the missing benefits: 1. Holiday 2. Sick days 3. Vacation 4. Stock RSUs 5. Signing Bonus 6. Bonus 7. 401k 8. ESPP 9. Health Insurance 10. Dental 11. Vision 12. Life Insurance and what I found was, as a contractor, they usually treat you as an "hourly maid". Like you are not supposed to go to trainer or onboarding, you are not supposed to go and hear any company meeting. You are supposed to come here and subject to our orders, obey, and do it. It is like hourly maid or mercenary. So what, today's American Dream, Entrepreneur topic, Leadership, is more about "How to exploit people to the fullest, because we know we can exploit you" ? #swe
Very true. Plus they dangle a đ„ in front of contractors hinting at full type employment in order to work them even harder.
Capitalism. I donât think anyone is being forced into labor at these companies. Itâs not exploit. Itâs at will. You or these people are free to quit. They can even negotiate. Tbh, Itâs the middle man that gets the huge payday. Contractors get pennies on the dollar to what the companies pay them.
oh yeah, like how they make the family poor, the girls poor, and they have to work at the night club, and, blah, "it is all freedom, it is all free will" ?
get pennies to the dollar... it is for sure pennies, just depends on, is it 70 cents per dollar, or is it 50 cents per dollar
Meanwhile, someone else who has no job would love to make these $71/hour. Stop being greedy! Once you appreciate what you have, you can start working on something better. With this attitude, i donât think you can go very far my friend. When i started working at microsoft, i had 4 years of experience, was making around 55 bucks an hour, i was happy, and i worked my way up. I wasnât here complaining about how they enslaved me and shit. Do your work, find something better and leave
it is not like just because somebody is willing to work as an hour maid or a nightclub girl, we cannot complain about it. You and people here talk about TC 350 TC 500, and you are saying "don't be greedy"... It is sometimes not like the person is "willing" to go for $71 / hour. It is like their usual resume sink like a rock into the ocean, and agency keep sending emails about Apple hiring contractors, and so there is no way but to go that route... sometimes it is, you just want to work for Apple or Google and you happen to have some money but God knows that money is not good for you to save up and retire but the companies do not care about that -- you may as well be homeless when you are 85 and they wouldn't blink an eye
Apple, like i said, you can keep on complaining, or you can try to fix it. Open a start up, your own business, interview with other companies. I used to make less than 65k when i graduated for 3 years, i didnât complain
The best way to exploit someone is to convince them that you are on their side. Tech employees, in general, are suckers for woke politics. Convince them to part with their money because of some imagined oppression. Lobby the government to give you expensive contracts and reclaim the money. You have to play the long con. It's very easy to fool people with meaningless promises as long as you play to their fears. Right now, I'm over $2M in real estate debt. I'm hoping for shutdowns because my company benefits from it (not VMware) and the government running the money printer on overdrive should lead to hyperinflation which should weaken my debt. So I'm all about following the science and the best part is all the stupid poor schmucks think I support them.
Yes that is contracting life.
and the funny thing is, the agency probably say to you, "Oh there is such a good job at a good company, and they may even want to contract to hire (when they have no intention to)." and then say to the company "Oh this person is so enthusiastic to work for you, and he is good, and he doesn't care too much about money, so at 60% of the usual cost, you can hire him, what a win-win situation and good for business decision"