Turning Down FB...but I need help clearing my mind
Help me understand if this makes sense cause I am doubting my own thoughts. Got an offer from FB ---- current comp at Yahoo between () . Base compensation 150k (149k) Equity 100k vesting in 4 years on a quarterly basis (20k per year more or less) Performance based bonus: 10% (12%) Sign-In Bonus: 20k (N/A) Location: Menlo Park (Los Angeles) Title: Product Growth Analyst (Product Manager) Level: IC4...I think (not comparable) My mental process: To me there are 4 elements that are crucial when evaluating a job: Working environment(including role’s responsibilities, company culture...), Location, Immigration, Compensation. Each of these elements needs to balance the other to make things work and create a sustainable equilibrium for me to operate. I can’t stress enough my excitement for the role and the working environment I would be joining. i would love it. On the other hand, I make no secret that I have “things” in LA that would not be able to follow me in Menlo Park. However the most important thing is that FB would not start my GC immediately but it is actually at manager's discretion. In my current role I am starting the process now so moving to FB might end up delaying the process by 6-12 months.... I am stating this because I want to make sure that my request don’t come through as driven by “money for money’s sake”. I am trying to make sure that those 4 pillars are in the right equilibrium for me to function, nothing more. As location and GC can't me changed, compensation is the only one left so I told HR I was looking for a 25%-30% increase of my current compensation to walk away from LA, the initiated GC, a coming promotion/raise et cetera. Especially because I like the team I am now so it's not like I want leave. Anyway, I proposed to HR many variations even not TotalComp centered like letting me stay in LA or having me start the GC immediately or getting a bigger sign-in bonus to cover the first year and I would take the risk of proving myself for a raise the second year...They said no to everything (moved base of 5k and equity of 2.5k per year...basically a no). I feel a little bit "disappointed" as it feels like they are not really interested/want me. I made clear that money were not my focus but the GC it is, but since I have to delay it of 1 year at least, I need to cover the risk exposure...they don't seem to care. I am very close to turning them down but I am "hating it". I am scared I might not get a second chance. If I had a GC I would have took it but I don't so... Thoughts? #facebook #career #decisions #offers #product
What is GC? Green card?
Yep
How long do you have left before getting your GC?
Just started the PERM so technically 1 year before being able to transfer to another company.
During team matching phase, can you talk to managers to see if they are willing to start GC process? Then use that info to choose your team
I don't think you can choose a team for this role. I think you get assigned.
Can the recruiter put you in contact with the assigned team’s manager? Then you can ask directly
Feels like you’d be sacrificing a lot to take this offer, but we don’t know much about your current job and how much you like it. You’ve made it through the rounds once, which bodes favorably for future opportunities with FB. I’d say follow your gut; which path would you regret more if you didn’t take it?
That’s a nice way of putting it. From within FB what have you seen Green Card wise? I fairly happy at my role now so it was more of the curiosity of being at FB than anything else. Do you know if I turn it down if they would be against keeping in touch for something in a 6-10 months for example?
Unfortunately I’m not close to the GC process, so I’m not sure. If you turn it down, I’d recommend you ask your recruiter if there’s any fast track process for a future similar role if you reached back out with interest in 6-12 months. It likely depends on the role/org.
Is this GC policy new? Less than a year ago I was told we could kick off the process right after boot camp, and I pretty much did.
Why you won’t get a second chance? Just turn it down or GC is your priority
I don't know, you never know with these things. I would imagine that there is a cooling period so I can't apply again for the position for maybe 1 year or something and then who knows...
Also, and this is a funny story, the last time I turned down a job it was a SNAP offer with 200k in equities. It was 1.9 years go and Snap was worth about 3$...since then I am scared of turning down opportunities as well ahahahaha