Twilio vs Amazon

Veritas / Eng
Leetchod

Veritas Eng

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NetApp
Leetchodmore
Nov 2, 2018 86 Comments

Have offers from both of them.

From work, manager, and team perspective Twilio is exciting but Amazon TC is 25% higher than Twilio and no more negotiation with Twilio. Don't know more details about work, manager, the team at Alexa yet.

Being early in the career, care more about learning opportunities.

Which one would you choose and why?

Edit:
I have other competing offers (Msft, Didi, Salesforce, OCI) which are paying much higher than Twilio but considering factors shown above in the table, Twilio and Alexa are the top 2 picks. Others are in the next columns.

Edit 2:
TC:
Amazon Seattle TC = (1.25) * Twilio Bay Area TC

Base: Same

Equity: Same amount, different vesting schedule

Signon:
Twilio (0) vs Amazon (80k 1st year and 60k 2nd) paid monthly which is standard Amazon practice

Twilio vs Amazon
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TOP 86 Comments
  • Amazon / Product
    AmAlexa

    Amazon Product

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    AMD, EY
    AmAlexamore
    20% is big. And Amazon’s brand will get you a level upgrade in 1-2 years at Twilio and many mothers firms. I would have take twilio if it was pre-IPO. Alexa has great teams all over and so that shouldn’t be a problem.
    Nov 2, 2018 7
    • Google / Eng JNJ
      Lol. Typical SDM talk. This is what I have been hearing in amazon. SDMs in Amazon make it sound like only amazon is doing good work in the world. You won’t get any learning if you join any other company.

      OP. My suggestion would to be to find more info on your team and ignore this managerial bs. All these product launches etc doesn’t matter if you get a bad manager.
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Veritas / Eng
      Leetchod

      Veritas Eng

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      NetApp
      Leetchodmore
      OP
      @JNJ, yes I've scheduled a call to learn more about the team. Will decide after that.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Facebook / Eng gywtb
    amazon is already not that great and alexa sounds even worse

    at twilio, you like the team, manager, and work. sounds like an easy choice

    I don’t think 20% matters THAT much early in your career when you should be optimizing for learning
    Nov 2, 2018 12
    • Amazon Rod11
      Veritas, unfortunately that will be too much info, how about u tell me what org in alexa u have offer from and ill let u know if i know anything about it?. Also let me tell you this, go with amazon. Its worth the brand name. I was also hesitant in taking Amazon job coz of all the negativity around it. Its true there is a high turn over and still a day 1 culture so expect for lots of responsibility to ramp up pretty quickly, but that also means a lot of opportunities for progression, if u can stick it out and make it. Amazon has oncall so also u should be prepared to be paged at night. I got paged last noght at 3 am. But i will take my current job over any past job i have had without even thinking. I love amazon and plan to progress to PE someday.
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Veritas / Eng
      Leetchod

      Veritas Eng

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      NetApp
      Leetchodmore
      OP
      That's good to know. I will pm you.
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Google / Eng JNJ
    Twilio. Alexa is a bad org to go to. There are hiring every second person on this planet as engineer. Lot of policies, tech debt, and bad software engineering overall. Came from there, please don’t go.
    Nov 2, 2018 7
    • Amazon Rod11
      Its day 1 startup culture. People leave and new people join. New teams starting all the time. New businesses being developed. Lots of sdes move around as a result.
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Netflix / Eng
      MoneyHeist

      Netflix Eng

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      Apple
      MoneyHeistmore
      Oh, I thought you meant people leaving Amazon, not a specific team.
      Nov 4, 2018
  • Amazon Rod11
    Wtf is twilio
    Nov 3, 2018 1
    • Twilio yVPz86
      Good. We love to be underdogs
      Nov 7, 2018
  • Google zFsy57
    Normally I would always recommend starting with FANGG to get it on your resume and normally always take 25% salary bump. But man... Twillio is awesome. People there are great and the company is great
    Nov 2, 2018 8
    • Veritas / Eng
      Leetchod

      Veritas Eng

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      NetApp
      Leetchodmore
      OP
      @JNJ espp is the only component of compensation where Twilio wins rest all look same and Amazon wins.

      E.g. If I start at $125 at Amazon, TC remains constant for 3 years, I will earn $125 * 3 = $375 in 3 years.

      At Twilio if I get 100, 110, 125 respectively, I will earn $335 in 3 years.
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Apple / Eng nEwGr4d
      Plus ESPP which is guaranteed money, also free food and no BS vesting schedule like Amazon’s
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Veritas / Eng
    Leetchod

    Veritas Eng

    PRE
    NetApp
    Leetchodmore
    OP
    Thank you everyone for all the suggestions. I've decided to join Twilio 🙂.
    Wish me luck.
    Dec 2, 2018 2
    • Microsoft / Eng
      Baezoss

      Microsoft Eng

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      Amazon
      Baezossmore
      change your username
      Dec 2, 2018
    • Veritas / Eng
      Leetchod

      Veritas Eng

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      NetApp
      Leetchodmore
      OP
      Sure, Mrs. Baezoss 😜
      Dec 3, 2018
  • Amazon Gjdyveycc4
    Twlllo anytime. With Amzn u are stuck with that comp for rest of ur life. Twillo has tons of growth and u will be getting refreshers and promotions.
    Nov 2, 2018 9
    • Amazon Gjdyveycc4
      It’s constant for 4 years and for life unless you are promoted.
      Nov 4, 2018
    • Veritas / Eng
      Leetchod

      Veritas Eng

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      NetApp
      Leetchodmore
      OP
      Got it, thanks!
      Nov 4, 2018
  • Google zFsy57
    FYI the free food at Twillio is pretty bad
    Nov 2, 2018 4
    • Veritas / Eng
      Leetchod

      Veritas Eng

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      NetApp
      Leetchodmore
      OP
      Which office @Lvmv42?
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Google zFsy57
      I was speaking of the SF office
      Nov 3, 2018
  • Wish / Eng
    kagamoto

    Wish Eng

    PRE
    Amazon, Facebook, Google
    kagamotomore
    In terms of equity, TWLO will outperform AMZN as the rate of growth decreases for AMZN and stays constant or increases for TWLO. TWLO’s Flex will be a killer growth multiplier. AMZN cannot grow any faster. You might as well see what happens on Nov 6th before you make up your mind. Hope you have the number of shares locked in.
    Nov 4, 2018 3
    • Wish / Eng
      kagamoto

      Wish Eng

      PRE
      Amazon, Facebook, Google
      kagamotomore
      68% YoY wowzers
      Nov 6, 2018
    • Veritas / Eng
      Leetchod

      Veritas Eng

      PRE
      NetApp
      Leetchodmore
      OP
      Yes that was huge
      Nov 6, 2018
  • Amazon Arrow
    What's your comp at Twilio and Amazon? Yoe? Level offered at both companies? (I work for AWS and my brother works for Twilio)
    Nov 3, 2018 3
    • Amazon Arrow
      Yeah you can PM me
      Nov 3, 2018
    • Veritas / Eng
      Leetchod

      Veritas Eng

      PRE
      NetApp
      Leetchodmore
      OP
      Thnx.
      Nov 3, 2018

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