Got verbal offers from these two. Adobe: ~260k tc JPM chase: ~235k tc Both roles are full stack but Adobe is more focusing on backend. JPM chase is more focusing on front-end. Currently more lean towards Adobe but not sure if it's stable? JPM recruiter said that they are very stable not expecting layoffs. Current tc: 0 Your: ~6 Location: bay area #swe #layoffs #adobe #jpmorganchase
Adobe is cooler. Don’t know about layoffs.
i would not expect any recruiter to tell you “yes. expecting a layoff”. so don’t give too much weight to that
This proves TCs have clearly gone down. I moved to Bay area with 6 yoe pre covid and lowest offer I had was 310K and blind called it lowball and I negotiated and accepted 340k. I did not even have any specialized skillset.. just run off mill SWE
It’s an employers market right now, I think salaries will bounce back.
Op - location for these offers?
Bay area
Do you happen to know which org you got Adobe offer in?
Commerce I think?
I’m not too familiar with that org. However, many orgs and teams in the Bay Area have great wlb (including mine) so don’t worry too much about that!
We are having RIFs 🏧
Adobe over JPMC any day. Adobe can pay you much better so raises will be better than JPMC. JPMC is an old world company with old world culture and old world tech stack. Just a couple of years ago they required you to wear business casual attire in office. Not sure if that has changed now. Keep your distance. You have been warned! - An ex wallstreet bank employee.
+1. Unless you land a really senior role, JPMC is a death hole
100%
What's the location for both?
JP over adobe any day. Let me tell you from my experiences at adobe: stay as far away as possible. This place looks good from outside, but in reality is a huge shithole. Toxicity and politics are beyond imagination and there is absolutely 0 respect to your mental and physical health.
I thought adobe had good wlb and no pip culture?
Adobe is extremely toxic, beyond Amazon level.
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How much base tho?
Both are 180k...
How is other 55k divided into at jpmc