Tech IndustryAug 27, 2021
AmazonhdME35

Uber Senior Software Engineer Offer

Hi Blinders, Please rate my offer. If someone from Uber can put some insights Senior Software Engineer New TC : 78 LPA (52 + 12 + stocks) Current TC : 50 LPA YOE - 6+ Can become SDE-3 in 1-2 year. Is it worth to switch? What are the pros and cons of uber over amazon? Thanks. #uber #offer #amazon #uber5a #uberindia

Arcesium l33tin Aug 27, 2021

Breakup is critical here

Amazon hdME35 OP Aug 27, 2021

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Amazon ThRobot Aug 27, 2021

Amazon SDE-3 is 90+ LPA.

Amazon hdME35 OP Aug 27, 2021

Yes, that's why this question. Even Amazon has more possibility to go US.

Amazon ThRobot Aug 27, 2021

Btw you can move to US from Uber after 2 years.

Walmart zestypanda Aug 27, 2021

wait for SDE-3

Levi Strauss @seeker Aug 27, 2021

This is for Uber 5a or 5b?

Amazon hdME35 OP Aug 27, 2021

5a

Levi Strauss @seeker Aug 27, 2021

Did Uber ask you about your previous salary?

Amazon durex Aug 27, 2021

Is this right? Are you not missing any component? Seems too low

Amazon hdME35 OP Aug 27, 2021

I felt the same. No, this is only what recruiter told me.

Amazon durex Aug 27, 2021

Definitely not join this at comp. It's low for SSE, and workload will be high. Why not try Coinbase, other startups etc? Coinbase will directly pay about 1Cr.

Visa WdUw00 Aug 27, 2021

For how long u have been at Amazon? Can u tell if it is really a horrible place to be at?

Amazon hdME35 OP Aug 27, 2021

yes. it is more horrible once you inside. Politics, unnecessary workload, mandate piped, nothing is fare at amazon. You can only grow by licking your manager ass day and night.

Visa WdUw00 Aug 27, 2021

But how are u surviving? Given that u are on path to promo?

Google zyu-! Aug 27, 2021

Base can be 60 for sure Same thing happened with my senior , 52 became 60 after negotiations

Amazon hdME35 OP Aug 27, 2021

even though it is not getting around 1cr. I hope sse at uber makes around 1 cr.

Google zyu-! Aug 27, 2021

Yep they do But he had 9 yoe But yeah heard of 1cr+ a lot

Amazon wdjejd Aug 27, 2021

Don't switch when you're close to promo, sde-2 to sde-3 is a big jump. You'll get ~90TC and can leverage that to get 1-1.3. Think about how the next 4-5 years will be, based on the path you take. Big TC hit imo, if you're expecting promo in a year. Also, think realistically on the promo, and don't trust your manager. You should know where you stand, if you're meeting the bar, and how your team values politics vs performance. If there's any doubt in that, negotiate for a better TC than your current offer and jump. This is my general opinion. I don't know much about uber. Saw your comments just now on the issues you're facing with wlb, pip. In that case please do yourself a favor and look for a better place, also I've heard that uber has similar wlb, try to get more info on that. Maybe look at other companies like Google, LinkedIn.

Amazon hdME35 OP Aug 27, 2021

Good Advice. Promo can be stretched max to 2 years considering the politics in the org and other SDE-2 are also in line. I didn't have any pip for sure. I am talking about what i seen in amazon generally.

Amazon wdjejd Aug 27, 2021

Even if you yourself aren't pipped, the toxic culture, poor wlb and politics that come because of stack ranking and pip create a bad environment. Once all this shit starts affecting you mentally, no amount of money is worth it imo. If your team is different, then cool.

Amazon hdME35 OP Aug 28, 2021

Can someone from uber share the insights please?

Uber yXIu38 Aug 29, 2021

Hey OP, congrats on securing the offer. Here’s my take: - 5a offers at your YOE are rare. This would’ve potentially put you at the start of the 5a range explaining the lower TC. - Stocks are on the lower end. You should negotiate and ask for more. However, given the current stock price and annual projections you could potentially be looking at 2x gains. This is not guaranteed though so assess the risk and take a call. - 5A’s at Uber enjoy a broad scope and are expected to drive large scale projects. I can guarantee you that the scope would be larger than equivalent roles at FAANG counterparts. - 5A to 5B promotion is hard. I would say 2-3 years is doable with good performance. - Uber engineering and product commands considerable prestige in the market. You would have smart peers and learning opportunities. Vis-a-vis Amazon Engineering and product function at Uber is much smaller. Offer rate is also lower and process is definitely more selective. The flipside is stiff competition and performance pressure. - Last but not the least, Uber like all gig economy startups has been stressed under covid. Therefore, stock prices are depressed as well. You would hear a ton of flack about company prospects. However, the company is poised to get profitable by Q4, 21. I’d leave it to you to decide. Hope it helps.

Amazon hdME35 OP Sep 1, 2021

I agree to most of your points. But I seen folks gettting L5A offer with 1cr at 5 YOE also.

Tower Research Capital YUGt37 Sep 1, 2021

This was such a helpful reply. Thanks for putting in the efforts to write this down Could you share your experience with Uber? Also, any idea about the band/range of L5a? I am in the last round and anticipating an offer for SSE L5a(Architect) in Customer Obsession team