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Uber vs Google Offer

Hi, I’ve recently got offer from Google at L4 and Uber eats for senior software engineer. I’d like to work on consumer space product so eats seems to be more attractive regarding projects. However google is google at the end of day and so many potentially interesting projects inside. Also personally value career growth more than wlb. Google TC: 290k + 20k signon Uber TC: 400K + 70k(2yr) sign on Appreciate insights from both sides, especially how Uber/eats will play out in post-covid era. Current TC: 270k #swe

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Microsoft SuckItUpUp Mar 2, 2021

Why is Uber TC so much higher than Google?

Google owqJ68 Mar 2, 2021

Lower level at G.

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ntbP22 OP Mar 2, 2021

This.

Google BlzA32 Mar 2, 2021

Lol looks like an easy decision from numbers. Depends on team but I do think Uber has some upside after COVID. My friends at Uber are confident about the profitability by EOY 2021.

Microsoft vIaX20 Apr 22, 2021

Lol, covid won’t end before EOY 2021. If we’re lucky, EOY 2022

Google owqJ68 Mar 2, 2021

You're higher leveled at Uber and will make a lot more. I'd suggest trying to get G to give you a L5 offer, which can come much closer to Ubers. Otherwise, the higher level at Uber is probably better career wise.

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ntbP22 OP Mar 2, 2021

Thanks for the advice! I think unfortunately google has this tradition to lowball non-flag engineers regardless of its interview performance. I did well at interview but HR basically came back to me saying my yoe doesn’t meet l5 bar blabla. But yeah I will definitely try to negotiate more.

Microsoft jumpup Mar 2, 2021

Yeah that's what they keep saying lol

Roku crueIla Mar 2, 2021

Fk G for down leveling

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ntbP22 OP Mar 2, 2021

IKR.. it’s mainly due to the fact that a lot non-flagish ppl would die for going into gg hence this lowball tradition..

Google owqJ68 Mar 3, 2021

4 yoe for L4 isn't a downlevel.

Uber hfHH16 Mar 2, 2021

So google only gave you 20k more than current tc. It’s a no brainer. Promo at big companies are pain in the ass so don’t take down leveled offers

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ntbP22 OP Mar 2, 2021

Haha thanks! How’s culture in eats btw? Is it much different than Uber’s other orgs?

Uber hfHH16 Mar 2, 2021

Not sure about that. Eats is big with tons of teams, every team can have very different cultures

Google Yluz11 Mar 2, 2021

YOE?

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ntbP22 OP Mar 2, 2021

4.. I guess that doesn’t meet the Google’s external L5 hiring bar. FB basically said same to me and they don’t even let me interview for e5 without 5yoe ;). Appreciate Google actually gave me a chance haha

Zillow Group NYyv73 Mar 2, 2021

Uber is giving 400, for 4 yoe? Congrats.

Uber DosaSambar Mar 2, 2021

Take Uber L5. Interview again at G in 1-2 years and G will likely get you L5.

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ntbP22 OP Mar 2, 2021

Haha thanks! Will probably directly go to some preipos for next job.. assuming this trend for tech ipo will remain for next 3-5 yrs ;)

Uber uberfirst Mar 2, 2021

Should be an easy decision to accept Uber if you value Career growth.

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ntbP22 OP Mar 2, 2021

Thx! Any idea how eats culture look like? I’ve talked with hm but appreciate any insiders opinion.

Better.com Breadator Mar 2, 2021

Personally love eats as a product. I’ve heard others disagree, but I think it’s a great place for product work. Shits clean.

Google oddly Mar 2, 2021

Uber L5a == Google L4. But Uber pay more

Microsoft SuckItUpUp Mar 2, 2021

Levels.fyi ?

Google oddly Mar 2, 2021

Level.fyi is just one reference point.