Reddit is a business at end ofthe day andneeds to make money. Also a website like Reddit is basically a gold mine right now because companies are training LLMs based on such websites, we have already seen how Google search gets impacted without certain sub Reddits being public. Reddit mods are basically taking side of some app creators who profited off of Reddit for years and now are crying wolf because they're told to pay up orclose shop. Reddit can't afford to do a price tier either because their business model going forward is gonna be sell data to ai companies training their llms by charging them hefty fees. Just imagine allowing appa like apollo to get data with minial cost then those ai companies can read the data from there. Reddit mods should have clearly stated that their protest is about tools supporting mod functions. Reddit ceo could have handled the situation much better obviously. #tech
People are upset not because reddit is making API calls not free anymore, but because of the very high cost obviously made to make third party apps non viable and a very short 30d before implementing the change.
It's a passive aggressive way to tell these small app devs to pay up or close shop, sure but think about all other big companies training their llm models on reddit data like msft. Reddit has to take quick action there.
Remember how Tumblr won the fight against the content creators?
Tbf I am more pissed with new.reddit. What was even wrong with old ui..
Reddit mods use 3rd party apps to moderate their subreddits as the first party tools are a joke. Reddit is now asking their unpaid volunteers to pay for API access to do their free work. If Reddit had in-house moderators for all their most popular subreddits, it'd cost them 10s of millions in salary alone. Reddit absolutely has a point about third party apps monetizing their content with zero compensation. That's not what this is about. There are about a million ways Reddit could have handled this better. The scoarched earth policy is not it.
I made a list of about 30 things that reddit has promised or is a defunct feature reddit hasn't polished or really created yet. 30. They range from things like the site going down (like it did 3 times yesterday) to how they promised mods they could modify CSS 6 years ago on new reddit. How can they expect users to PAY for an API that not only goes down multiple times a day but isn't even the MVP of what they already have on other apps or ways to access reddit?
The mods should have made it clear in their protests that this is what they're protesting instead of blindly supporting app devs
I hardly use Reddit
Cool story. Thanks for sharing!
Reddit said mod tools will be free. Except for 3rd party apps.
TBH the real solution is to allow mods to use 3rd party apps.
But who would develop 3rd party apps only for mods. Also anyone can claim they're a mod and use the app if it is allowed to call reddit api.
Reddit is the only moderated porno site in the world. That alone makes it worth billions. Yes p*rnhub has more raw content but it's too unmoderated and uncurated. Plus it's gotten hardcore to the point where it's just too much, like when you get an unlucky pint of Ben& Jerry's and the whole thing is cookie dough.
I will be happy if reddit sinks. Reddit mods push their own agenda in the subs they control. Most mods are power tripping aholes who just want to silence the point of view they don't agree to. There are like a handful of mods who control all major subreddits. This has caused polarization in the users and most users are stuck in their echo chambers. It is not a good place for any meaningful debate. Use it for comedy and move on.
I'm in a sub that went private Then the mods made a poll asking if they should stay private or open up. It was like 99% open back up. Outside of mods the general population largely does not care
What community was that?
Their brigading worked the first time because nobody cared or didn't know what was going on. They were actively manipulating poll results and you can see it from their discord leaks: https://imgur.com/a/1YTNJhw Now that users are sick of their whining, people are voting and mods now say the polls don't count. Doesn't matter anyway because Reddit just removed a bunch of them and even suspended some of them.
Not an unpopular opinion. We all know they are redundant and reddit can replace them any day and i think they already did. But Intel will not be able to replace you if you edit your post and add your tc to it.
TC or ...?
It's an unpopular opinion considering what i see on news everyday.