If Apple decides to layoff, EPMs must be the first to go out of the door. I have worked with all kinds of EPMs - RF, Hardware and PD. What do they even contribute toward? Schedule, checkpoint, keynote engineering, and then chill. These people have the least liability in the org and make as much pay as engineers. How are TPMs/EPMs in your company? Do they contribute in any form or shape?
Lol why would we layoff when we are so well run? We donât get free food, we pay for our own premiums, we donât wfh 5 days a week, noticed a trend of those who layoff their employees? Do we look like one of them?
What do EPMs do though lol
Careful your massive ego is showing
Nothing. Just pushing paper
Glorified secretaries! Axed a few at Oracle, more to come
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Are you $ure? They get the same pay as SWEs?
Why donât you actually go talk to one & ask instead of making these judgements. Who knows what theyâre doing behind the scenes. What you see them doing is only half the story. Go befriend one, maybe youâll gain some insight instead of ridiculing someones job.
Needs two things. (1) a healthy EPM to Eng ratio (2) EPMs who are reasonably technical
Hey do you mind referring me ?
Intel has such Group Leaders in many cases specially those company didn't what to with after 8 or 9 years.
You should probably ask them what they do. You might not be at the right visibility level to understand or appreciate it.
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