PoliticsJan 8, 2020
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Iran shoots down armed US drone over Tehran

Whoops, nope, that was a passenger jet Edit: Linking to RT specifically so that haters won't claim it's American propaganda: https://www.rt.com/news/477688-iran-plane-crash-video/ Watch the video there. The jet CLEARLY on fire, exploded in the air first, and then hit the ground and exploded again. That's not a "technical issue", that's what happens when you shoot a plane down. MORE: https://www.npr.org/2020/01/07/794430621/jetliner-reportedly-carrying-180-people-crashes-near-tehran-airport "The plane climbed to 7,350 feet about two minutes after takeoff and then telemetry was lost, according to FlightAware data. The director-general of the Iran Civil Aviation Organization, Hassan Rezaeifar, said that the aircraft did not declare an emergency." So how could Iran know it's engine trouble? The plane didn't radio and they won't even have recovered the black box, which they don't have the equipment from Boeing to decode. So they don't have any way to know what happened, yet within minutes they know it's "engine trouble"? That's a LIE. These jets have engine fires all the time (bird strikes) and just turn around and fly back to the airport and land using the remaining engine, so that's bullshit. They don't blow up in the sky just because an engine catches fire, and they would certainly be calling mayday if that happened--and usually then land safely using the other engine. Pilots didn't call the tower because they were either dead or their comms were destroyed.

WATCH ball of flame falling from the sky alleged to be Ukrainian plane that crashed in Iran
WATCH ball of flame falling from the sky alleged to be Ukrainian plane that crashed in Iran
RT International
Jetliner Reportedly Carrying 180 People Crashes Near Tehran Airport
Jetliner Reportedly Carrying 180 People Crashes Near Tehran Airport
NPR.org
Google KytN86 Jan 8, 2020

What are you talking about? A passenger boeing 737 crashed minutes after taking off from Tehran airport.

Amazon fmjfn OP Jan 8, 2020

Read the reports. It "crashed" by exploding in mid air. Jets don't just explode like that.

New
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Not Max, 737-800

Roku BlindWitch Jan 8, 2020

A Ukrainian passenger plane that crashed?

Amazon fmjfn OP Jan 8, 2020

"Crashed" by exploding in a fireball in the sky?

Microsoft tatun Jan 8, 2020

Why would Iran shoot down an Ukrainian jet? Where there Americans onboard?

Microsoft TrumpWins Jan 8, 2020

The passenger information of #Ukraine airlines flight #PS752 • Ukrainian citizens- 11 • Iranian citizens - 71 • Canadian citizens -73 • German citizens - 4 • British citizens - 3 • Swedish citizens - 8 • Afghanistan citizens - 6 https://twitter.com/Aviation_NewsTW/status/1214808803528458242?s=20

Microsoft tatun Jan 8, 2020

So, no good reason then. Making more enemies when you already have poked the bear and got humped for it doesn't sound like a same idea.

Amazon OPSy50 Jan 8, 2020

The fact that 2 hours after the crash, Iranian state tv claimed it was a technical failure tells you all you need to know. The NTSB takes months to investigate a crash.

Amazon fmjfn OP Jan 8, 2020

Exactly. They don't even have the ability to access the black box, which they probably haven't even recovered yet, and they already know all this information? Bullshit. They shot it down and they're lying.

Lockheed Martin bakery Jan 8, 2020

why does Boeing hate flying so much

Amazon fmjfn OP Jan 8, 2020

How well do Lockheed Martin jets fare after taking a direct hit from an anti aircraft missile?

Microsoft DedCntr Jan 8, 2020

Now, assuming it was actually a missile hit, why is Ukraine not already alleging it? If it turns out to be true, what would be the outcomes?

Amazon fmjfn OP Jan 8, 2020

Good question. The facts we have so far are that the plane exploded in mid air, and Iran is lying about what caused it. Ukraine is probably waiting for more information and trying to figure it out.

Oracle cmiatah Jan 8, 2020

Friendly fire is a definite possibility, but it could also be a coincidence. Odd that Ukraine would come out so quickly though with news of engine failure if it was friendly fire.

Amazon fmjfn OP Jan 8, 2020

Neither Ukraine nor Iran nor anyone else have ANY way to know if it was an engine problem so that story is a lie. You have any other theory why they would be lying about it? A lie: Iran had already announced that the plane went down with no mayday or other distress call so the pilots didn't tell them what happened, and they likely don't have the black box yet, which even if they did have, they need Boeing equipment to read.

Microsoft tatun Jan 8, 2020

Fmjfm...if you have read the latest news, from CNN, the Ukrainian embassy has ruled out terrorism as a cause of crash. It is so known that there were 70+ Iranians onboard that aircraft, I find it hardly believable that they would kill their own just to make a point. Please stop spreading hate. This xenophobic approach of folks like you is what is making this world a shitty place.

Amazon fmjfn OP Jan 8, 2020

Oh look it's the pro Iran nitwit. Neither Ukraine nor Iran have any way of knowing that. They are lying. There were NO comms from the pilots and no way they analyzed the black box (or likely even found it) by the time they were making that claim. In fact they don't even have the equipment to analyze the black box, they need Boeing to do that. So what's their information based on? The ONLY way they know why that plane went down is if they shot it down. Did Iran do it on purpose to make a point? No fucking way. They screwed up. They thought they were shooting down an American jet. That's why they are lying about it to cover up what they did.

Zillow Group ofofndnfkd Jan 8, 2020

The Ukrainian embassy retracted their comment related to an engine failure being the cause of the crash.

Microsoft utLu50 Jan 8, 2020

Nice crackpot theory

Amazon fmjfn OP Jan 8, 2020

You know what's a crackpot theory? The idea that Iran knows there was an engine problem even though they had no communication from the pilot and no access to the black box. Planes don't burst into flames in the air just because an engine fails. Even if the engine catches fire that's not what happens. In fact planes routinely return to the airport and land safely with an engine on fire after a bird strike--they can fly with the remaining engine and the fire doesn't spread. So the one thing we do know for sure is that Iran is lying about the cause of the crash, which means they likely know exactly what the cause is WITHOUT needing any information from the plane itself.

Facebook do e Jan 8, 2020

Wait and see what the investigation reveals. Everything you are suggesting is speculation and right now crackpot or conspiracy theory. OP, your hatred of Iran is pretty obvious based on how you are blaming Iran.

Facebook do e Jan 8, 2020

Another Boeing plane crashed. Looks like Boeing stock will tank further. Why are you blaming it on Iran? How do you know more than everyone else by now? Do you work for CIA/MI6.. oh.. wait you work for Amazon.. no need to spread conspiracy theory.

Amazon fmjfn OP Jan 8, 2020

Because Iran's public statements are clearly lies, and jets don't just blow up in midair. Why is Iran lying? They can't possibly know whether it was engine failure given that they had no word from the pilots and no access to the black box.