Joining a startup that uses Ruby on Rails
Is this a red flag? The pay is good though, cash close to 300k.
Maybe I work where you’re going. Worst engineering talent I’ve ever seen.
Really? The startup has less than 30 engineers, I doubt it’s the same and they are not “new” on Blind.
Yeah that ain’t here. We’re big. The new is a guise.
Twitter used to be on Rails. A very long time ago.
It didn’t scale at all. That was the poster child for it. They’ve rewritten everything in Scala
Yes but Twitter had already gotten to an insane level of user growth on the back of Ruby on Rails, if they had started with Scala they may have been out maneuvered by companies who could push out features faster. Anyway newer versions of Rails would not face the scaling issue that plagued Twitter back in the day
Ruby on Rails is still quite commonly used, especially among fast growing startups. Rumors of its demise have been greatly exaggerated. And in fact, it can be extremely performant up to millions of users. I worked at a company that started off as a Ruby on Rails monolith, and as different portions of the business grew they spun off services into microservices, some in ruby but some in other languages like Go or Java.
I would say yes only if you were committed to putting genuine effort into getting the most out of ruby and rails. If you have the goal of leading them into adopting a half-baked SOA with Java and Kubernetes and gRPC and bazel, then please stay at Google.
SOA = ?
SOA = sausage on anus
Rails is kinda shit but it works
What is the better stack?
You’ll be fine. If focus more on what other skills you’re picking up.
I'd take the money, good company/product on ruby on rails is a great job security. you see ROR allows you to write pretty bad code and the app eventually runs into scaling problem from both users and development/engineering perspective. lot of tech debt is accumulated over time. then you can lead the revolution to microservices or SOA and addressing tech debt. ask me how i know and i joined a company on ROR codebase of 9 years. we're going through lot of the same thing i described to you. oh and with 30 engineering team be ready to do a lot of things outside of your immediate scope like dev ops, infra, platform stuff.
If ROR “allows” you to write bad code I promise you would have written bad code in any other language too. Try improving your skills as an engineer. Any language can suffer from poorly written code.
Tell me you have not coded in ror at a startup without telling me… Go work at a startup before you run your mouth about good code and design
Cool kids do everything in Rust these days
I passed on an upstart offer some 6 years ago bc they use Ruby on Rails My TC would’ve been $1 mil in 2021 if I accepted the offer And come crashing down the next few years
$1m in 2021 and laid off in 2023.