Misc.Sep 11, 2023
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We we Need More or Less MBAs in Tech?

I recently got an MBA and realized post MBA roles like product management and marketing are all about extracting value from customers rather than creating value. Engineers invent and build new products and features, creating value for customers. Us MBAs figure out how to extract as much value from a customer without them leaving, whether it means charging 10X more for the same GPU just for the privilege of running it in a data center (Nvidia) or showing the maximum tolerable number of ads in a YouTube video (google) before someone clicks away. Do we need more or less MBAs in tech? TC 250

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QFAV82 Sep 11, 2023

This is business, so everyone is extracting value. From both the customer and, frequently but often unnecessarily, from the fellow employees.

Amazon aop777 Sep 12, 2023

No, there are also win win situations…

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QFAV82 Sep 12, 2023

And there are employees who are fortunate enough to never have to directly extract value. However, in aggregate everyone extracts value or else the business dies.

Amazon 1951 Sep 11, 2023

It’s a balancing act. If you let engineers run the show, you’ll get products that customer won’t pay for (but the engineers think are cool) and/or tons of process dedicated to perfecting what ever it is you sell (ie moving towards stagnation). Need some business minds for sure, but ones that act with restraint and don’t doom the company with thinking that is either too shortsighted or too distant into the future.

Amazon aop777 Sep 12, 2023

😂 I wish this was true… the reality is a person that goes to a paid course call it mba or whatever has not much more instinct for knowing what customers want… lots of failed projects following PMs directions.

Amazon 1951 Sep 12, 2023

A degree doesn’t guarantee you’re good at something. I’ve met lots of trash engineers, too, some with masters.

LinkedIn CPJs32 Sep 11, 2023

I’m a girl with 160k TC at LinkedIn if you make more than me feel free to roll into my DMs

Stripe doobius Sep 11, 2023

Can you get us free premium?

Google Akira88 Sep 11, 2023

Whoa there buddy, she's not a genie!

360training smellthe Sep 11, 2023

That’s capitalism, baby. Everything engineering does is in an effort to extract value. Otherwise nobody would be making a profit.

Stripe doobius Sep 11, 2023

No mbas in tech please

Google Akira88 Sep 11, 2023

If we want to get paid and see our RSUs appreciate, somebody will have to do a value extraction job. The question is then if they should be better at their jobs or worse, presumably indicated by having an MBA vs not. If I'm supposed to place faith in people because they went to Stanford for computer science, I might as well do the same for the Stanford MBAs.

Capital One ujUy50 Sep 11, 2023

Only if they graduated from Canada’s top business school, with really good grades.

Siemens q28mlp Sep 11, 2023

I'd like the CFO to have an MBA. For everyone else, applicable experience > MBA.

LinkedIn I am a Cat Sep 11, 2023

If you are creating value for the shareholders, who cares? You do not work for the customers.

Raytheon yuki_san Sep 11, 2023

Only $250K TC???