What Microsoft benefits do you lose at Amazon?

Sep 22, 2018 70 Comments

When comparing offers, benefits make things less black and white. Microsoft has great benefits that are easy to overlook when a big signing bonus offer is made, but that’s a long term benefit whereas the immediately available benefits can really impact life starting on Day 1.

Sounds like Microsoft is better for the things below but how much?

- 401k match
- HSA contributions
- Tuition reimbursement
- Paid time off (vacation + sick + holidays)
- Average cash (not stock) bonuses
- Microsoft Prime discounts (especially on Apple, Mercedes and other cars)

Are they identical for these below? If not, what’s the difference?

- Medical & dental including ortho, deductibles & max out of pocket
- prescription co-pay?
- Pre-existing conditions issues for new hires?
- YMCA membership / health club benefits?
- ESPP discounts and limits?
- Patent application rewards?

Business Travel considerations?

Any huge Amazon benefits Microsoft doesn’t have?

What else am I forgetting?

#benefits #comparison

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TOP 70 Comments
  • Amazon / Eng sde3
    Work 1h/day and still is a top performer.
    Sep 22, 2018 1
    • Collective Health / Eng FaceAnd
      What does this mean
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Amazon
    \°_°/

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    Benefits wise, Amazon doesn't even come close to Microsoft. I have lost two of my teammates to Microsoft in last 2 months, and I am considering the move myself.
    Sep 22, 2018 7
    • Amazon / Product aurnyuiq
      What’s your level, role and comp offered at MSFT?
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Microsoft Cupidcobra
      Congratulations! Breakup?
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Microsoft Was
    Over all amazon has nothing over Microsoft and is crushed hands down over the mentioned benefits. Those benefits accounts for about 25-30K difference
    Sep 22, 2018 9
    • Cadence CubicleDog
      Hey! Parental leave at Microsoft doesn't have a 1-year qualification requirement?

      I'm a new dad with a one month old kid. I'm joining Microsoft in a couple weeks. So I would be eligible for the 12 week paternal leave from the day I start? That would be sweet.
      Oct 10, 2019
    • SAP pOtN23
      Cubicle, I heard that indeed there's some retroactivity to paternity leave at Microsoft.
      3d
  • Amazon Sgf
    Your life
    Sep 22, 2018 2
    • Microsoft OhUl64
      OP
      As in it’s much worse work/life balance at Amazon?
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Amazon Sgf
      Yes. And mental sanity.
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Microsoft / Eng SenoritaWE
    I think fathers get 18 weeks paid of paternity leave, mothers get 24 weeks? 12 PTO days, 2 floating holidays, 10 sick days and 3-5 weeks of vacation. Paid Care giver leave if you need to take care of a sick family member or to attend a family members funeral. 100 hours of childcare at $8/h? No monthly health insurance premiums plus $2k HSA contribution. Paid Orca card, free Microsoft commuter bus to and from work if you are close to a stop.
    Sep 22, 2018 12
    • Microsoft OIC-u812
      It was at 11 years. I don’t believe you can go above four now. If you had it when it was changed, you were grandfathered in. I believe anyway.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng SenoritaWE
      Seriously?
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Amazon / Mgmt good_bad
    401k match is 50% up to full $18.5k IRS max at MSFT. It's 50% up to 4% of your pay (2% match) at AMZN. So, $9k vs probably $3k. That's the biggest one.

    Medical and other related benefits are less rich at AMZN, still not too bad, but much more average for a big company where MSFT was very generous.

    There is no bonus at AMZN but the stock component is generally more (especially when it doubles in a year, obviously ymmv).

    Paid time off is not as different as I thought. I left MSFT after 11 years, I was at 4 weeks vacation plus 12 Holidays, so 32 total paid days off. AMZN is 2 weeks vacation for year 1 then 3 weeks at year 2, plus 1 week of personal time, and 6 Holidays. So at year 2, you have 26 days. Not really all that notable, especially when I had trouble using all of it at MSFT from a practical standpoint.

    AMZN has some "employee extras" but they pale in comparison to Prime.

    AMZN has no ESPP. I liked at MSFT that you could give yourself a 1.5% raise with ESPP.

    No Pro Club membership at AMZN. There is an employee extra which is waived new member fee but that's pathetic, you won't want to be a member there with their monthly fee.

    MSFT reimbursed $75 monthly for mobile, AMZN does $50. Petty difference, but pretty representative of the general gap in benefits.

    At AMZN, really the stock is the only plus. That, and there are far more career paths opening up, and a far more experimental culture, and more opportunities to make an impact. MSFT has a long and storied history of blocking employee transfers to other teams. AMZN in my experience encourages it.
    Sep 23, 2018 6
    • Microsoft thadude
      Does aws provide an orca card? msft does and it’s a full system wide pass - mine expires in 2025 🤣
      Sep 23, 2018
    • New / Eng JFK,
      Never heard of $75 for mobile perk. Is it still there ?
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Amazon / Eng
    onMyWay

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    The core benefit you get over Microsoft, honestly, is getting to work on cool (and highly visible) stuff and move between teams with absolute ease.
    Sep 22, 2018 5
    • Amazon NuttCase
      +1 to that. The scale, visibility and headline making work I do is mountains higher at Amazon then anything I ever did at MSFT.
      Sep 23, 2018
    • Microsoft / Eng ohm's
      This is highly variable, depending on teams. Sure, there are teams working on really cool stuff at Amazon. But there are also teams working on things like tax computation & vendor management systems, which are definitely important but not in any particular way headline making.
      Sep 23, 2018
  • Microsoft / Product Kemw
    No ESPP at Amazon
    Sep 22, 2018 1
    • Synack
      Iiiioioi

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      Iiiioioimore
      That’s shitty
      Sep 22, 2018
  • Microsoft facegram
    Amzn doesn't allow after tax 401k - which can be converted to roth-IRA using mega-backdoor method..
    Sep 22, 2018 0
  • Amazon
    SWGMA

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    There are no benefits at all at Amazon, just mandatory by law only just to make-up. You will loose everything including your soul😬
    Sep 23, 2018 6
    • Amazon / Eng
      onMyWay

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      I have no reason to lie. My job is comfy, and all of my colleagues share similar hours.

      It sounds like you need to find a different team friend.
      Sep 24, 2018
    • Amazon / Product aurnyuiq
      Does your team have product roles?
      Sep 29, 2018

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