My previous job salary $350k, wanted to start my own company. I did. It didn't work out. Then I jot a job with no prep at Amazon salary was $160. Thought I'd do it for a few months then leave but then I got stuck, busy work etc etc no time to leave. Life situations. Since earlier this year I have been interviewing and trying to leave Amazon. Nothing is working out. The hiring freeze is making me nervous. I want to share what a failure I am wit my friends hoping to get advise most of them seem to do incredibly well as eng managers or staff engineers etc I feel like they would kinda lose interest if I share what a failure I am. Ideally after $320k my jump should have been $400 or North of it. Now I feel like a loser. Failed startup. Finance failure making 160 at 10 years of experience. I am in data science analytics. Last on-sites that didn't work this year- (yes getting onsite but slap in the face with only rejects) Meta Asana LinkedIn Shopify Udemy TikTok (they said I did well but role was removed) Dropbox After first round reject Roblox Spotify Block Roku Apple Credit karma Discord Ghosted recruiter or I didn't have time the role closed Zoox Airbnb Everlane List I remember so far... YoE - 9 TC - 160k (former TC at prior company $350k)
Did you know that there is no finite timeline to start a company? If you failed because you don’t have what it takes to start alone, learn from your experience and do better next time and find a good support team. If you fail because of life, try again, try better, but try. Running and starting a company is not a piece of cake. So be glad you were at least able to land a job. I am currently unemployed, my two attempts at starting a company failed because of reasons beyond me and because of me, so if failure means a $160k salary at Amazon, I would gladly assume that failure. Did you know your time at your job is not only giving you the seed capital to try again but also a new experience and network? Discipline yourself despite life and try to squeeze your side hustle on a part-time basis into your work life when you are ready.
I had a shitty job, then bootstrapped a failed startup for a few years. Just started a job with decent TC trying to get out of the trough of failed entrepreneurship. It's fucking hard picking yourself up and dusting off. Got a good technique for generating interviews if you want to DM.
Thank you! DMed you. I am happy you were able to get a job. Indeed, it’s a struggle to pick up the pieces from failed entrepreneurship and move on. Keep moving!
Did you try reaching former company? Forget past and work in present. You tried and failed. I am sure you will get a better job. Just keep trying. I know it is hard but keep trying.
You need new friends if you think your friends are gonna judge you for not succeeding on your first business venture
yeah man, that's the real red flag in this post My friends run the full gamut of "Millionaire CEO" to "Couch-surfing loser who isn't even good at video games" and I respect and cherish them all My techbro friends were still perfectly cool with me when I was running a failing startup.
I'm the "Couch-surfing loser who isn't even good at video games"
The only one demeaning themselves is you. Money defines you? Like what is it that you don't have to call yourself names? Are you lookin for pity? Whatever the economy is doing is affecting everyone not just you. You were able to make it this far..just keep going- things will hopefully get better for all of us
Can you share why your company failed?
It was a deep tech company. It was at a peak of motivation. I took two months off and was feeling in great mental abilities. At peak. So I started Great advisors industry top. I had a falling out with an advisor. They really motivated me and I started. After the fall out I lost faith in myself
Was communicating what the company did a problem for you?
You better off making a field study to see what’s really good. Maybe a visit to NY Sotheby’s Christmas auction?
If they are your friends they will listen.
Did you ask those recruiters for any feedback?
Lol
Why do you think your company didn’t work out?
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With recession looming high TC are gonna be long gone.
What a load of bullshit There's no recession coming, for one thing, and even if it did come, programmers get paid a lot of money because they generate a lot of actual business value. Or at least, they theoretically CAN generate a lot of value. Coders were still living high on the hog even through the dot-com crash and 2008, the only people who really got screwed were wannabes/boot campers who couldn't actually generate value.
Keep saying that to yourself! For many companies the marginal ROI from hiring SWE is negative (yep; that includes Meta and Google). Doesn’t matter if, in a hypothetical setting, SWEs make the company a ton of money, or if they do in aggregate - it’s only the marginal that counts!