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I've been talking to a few people who have been pushing me to move towards a non-tech PM (product) role from being in projects/programs. I have several years experiences in enterprise project management, my MBA, soon PMP, and next Spring my MS. I actually dislike project management in comparison to the 'bigger picture' view you take in [traditional] program management. Having no direct experience with product ownership, but being familiar with Agile, how difficult is the jump from PgM to PM and what skills would I need to improve? TC 95k YOE 5
PM usually stands for product manager. Is this what you are referring to?
Not quite - I know the name and general difference between Programs and Products. I've been behind IT/software implementations at my company, but not at the detailed level of talking about specifications of a design... more removed and making sure the deliverable is on track to be finished within the sprint. I'm trying to figure out what a non-tech Product manager does that a program/project manager cant.
It often depends based on the company and methodology in place. PgM and PM skillsets varies a lot. PM typically define the product from vision to implementation. They’ll go deep in the product. I work with tech-PMs, not sure what the difference is with non-tech PMs.
I assume you're asking between a PjM and a PgM? PM means product manager in the tech world.
Sorry, was interrupted twice while typing - I know the difference between projects and programs, I'm wondering what the jump/change from programs to product would be. For example, time management and planning/scheduling are critical for PgM, but in an Agile environment, what are the key skills a good product manager has? Are there many skills that can be converted from Pgm to PM?
Product Manager (PM) focuses on product features and vision, specifically with customer experience in mind. You are involved in the details of exactly what that product will do and why it’s of value. Program Manager (PgM) focuses on delivery, schedule, sprints, etc. In the details of exactly how you’re getting from idea to delivering to customers, and connecting the resources to do that. At Amazon the tech roles (PMT and TPM) overlap significantly, and small teams rarely have both, so you end up doing both. Wouldn’t be hard to transition, although the skills are different. Hardest part is going from non-tech PgM to one of the tech roles. Have to clear the tech bar, system design, etc.
Interesting, thank you. What I still can’t figure out is what a non-tech Product Manager does (there are positions that are non-tech), and how that overlaps with a non-tech PgM
Amazon Prime, Heath, Credit cards, etc are all non tech products. Their PMs focus on improving customer experience and growth.
Follow up: I know it's much easier to make the switch within a company; has anyone done that at Amazon? Have a PgM onsite coming up but in a year or two could consider making the switch internally.