What is the real range of SF L4, L5 Google engineers

Dec 1, 2019 27 Comments

My friend mentioned that L5 can reaches to half million per year total compensation. But when I searched on google. It mentions the L4 ranges 133k-171k and L5 ranges from 170k-198k.

quite confused.

If L4 can reaches 200k, i really should think of moving from Finance to Tech then

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  • Sirius XM / Product bOqC28
    Hi OP. Former finance guy who transitioned to tech years ago. I remeber being as blissfully ignorant about tech salaries as you are. Here is what you need to know:

    1)Those numbers aren’t accurate
    2) Those numbers are relatively close to the SALARY data for those roles. Tech employees often make just as much and sometimes more in annual bonuses and equity depending on their level.
    3)there is a website called “levels.fyi”. I used to be really ignorant and didn’t realize that people were giving me an actual URL. Type that in the URL and you will go to a website that guves self reported salary data at the big tech companies.
    4) When you get to the site, ignore the colored boxes on the homepage. You want to click on the drop down arrow on the top right and then click compensation. This will give you individual salary submissions which are much easier to analyze.
    5) when you see a submission, this is what it means:

    $259,000 (big font) = total annual comp

    160k/ $75k / $24k =
    $160k annual salary /
    $75K annual equity RSUs /
    $24k annual performance bonus

    6) Tech is where it’s at. If you are smart enough to work in finance, you can make the jump to tech.
    Dec 1, 2019 10
    • Sirius XM / Product bOqC28
      Yes, I am literally saying that anyone who is smart enough to work in finance is smart enough to work in tech. In the bay.

      Literally what I am saying.

      This is based on my experience of working in finance, and working in tech. People who work in finance are really really smart. I don’t think I have ever met a dumb person in finance, the industry intimidates people who are not intellectually curious.

      Ignoring the top 2% of tech people, I find most people in tech are just autodidacts with above average intelligence.

      Anyone can transition into the tech industry and have moderate success if they are smart enough . . . Finance people tend to be smart enough . . . Therefore finance people can become tech people.

      That’s my position. We don’t have to agree.
      Dec 3, 2019
    • Bloomberg Enig16
      What finance are you talking about? Prop trading, investment banking, private equity, accounting? I’ve been in the investment banking industry and there are people there who have excellent people skills but not so great technically, which tech requires. I’m not just talking about any firm, I’m talking about firms like Evercore, Goldman, etc. Have you actually worked in finance Sirius? Or are you just saying from offhand impressions from meeting finance peeps. Oh and trust me, there are a LOT of dumb people in finance and in tech. Saying you’ve never met a dumb person really shows the myopic view you have on it. Sure there are people who are smart and in finance and would make it in tech, but it’s not always the case. Definitely cannot generalize.

      “The industry intimidates people who are not intellectually curious” Lmao. More like it attracts people who want to make bank.

      Finance is one industry where connections really matter. Your parents work at Goldman? You’re already in.
      Dec 3, 2019
  • MongoDB / Eng dijebsjai
    levels.fyi
    Dec 1, 2019 1
    • WeWork zxxdk
      How much does a senior engineer make at mongodb?
      Dec 1, 2019
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    Don’t make the move cuz of TC, you will not be happy in the long term.

    Make the move because tech is exciting. Or you fancy a change.
    Dec 1, 2019 0
  • Oracle vAPF84
    L4 easily reaches 200k if you have competing offers. L5 is very variable because the range is basically unlimited, I know someone who works at Google who doesnt want to be promoted because of leadership aspects but he owns some very specific components in Google Pay and his compensation is 500k+ and that too in India due to stocks. However this kind of salaries for L5 you probably wouldnt get as a new hire only when you work inside google and do good/great work.
    Dec 1, 2019 4
    • Oracle vAPF84
      Well unlimited was an exaggeration. But the point was at L5 the bands are not set unless you cross something like 750
      Dec 1, 2019
    • Google / Mgmt Huhf13
      Yes they are.
      Dec 2, 2019
  • Bloomberg (-_-)^
    What’s your current TC? Also from what I’ve seen Google L4 easily gets 230k and tops out around 300k. If you’re looking for TC 200k+ then pretty much any big tech company can pay that.
    Dec 1, 2019 3
    • Microsoft Vbsm66
      I thought finance pays large annual bonuses. Is that not true at blackrock?
      Dec 1, 2019
    • BlackRock XnMN37
      OP
      Yup. I’m Analytics role. Thus I do python coding like calling optimization engines, retrieving risk and return numbers, explain risk models etc. It’s not investment role. Also BLK is asset management not hedge fund :( sigh
      Dec 1, 2019
  • Google qiuyr
    People will consider 200K L4 offer as lowball nowadays.
    Dec 1, 2019 0
  • Google SdrPikachu
    The numbers you quote seem to be base salary only. If you add bonus and stock grants, you're at 2.5x that.
    Dec 1, 2019 0
  • OP the salaries you are seeing do not take into account bonus and more importantly stocks which can be as much or more as the base salaries depending on the level. We are late to know this, but get this for sure. Levels.fyi is accurate and tech salaries >>>> finance salaries specially for tech people (Non pnl)
    Dec 1, 2019 0
  • Credit Karma bollywood
    My guess is 90%+ of L4 have over 200k+ TC, with a median around 240-250k.
    Dec 1, 2019 0

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