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While looking up Amazon TC posts, I found that it didn't always have the usual "avoid at all costs" stigma. from posts 2018~2020, I noticed that people considered Amazon on par with those that are more sought out currently (e.g. Meta, Google, Apple). What I mean by this is that if Amazon offered slightly better comp, people used to suggest to accept Amazon. So, this got me thinking. What triggered this?
Amazon reputation is still stellar lol
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Nobody cares about reputation when you get paid top $. Especially if the public reputation is great but the tech industry internally views it as bad.
I was at Amazon for all of the 2010s and idk what you're on about - the reputation was already bad then. Offers also sucked (compared to T1) back then and didn't start getting "good" until probably 2021 or so. People always had been working long hours, nights and weekends, brutal oncalls, constant reorgs, aggressive pip, excessive politics, and pathetic TC increases for tenured employees.
From day 1
Here is my take: * Amazon is not as prestigious as G/F because it is not as selective, so you’ll find really smart people who are doing things that they like for higher pay, and also plenty of average joes (probably the majority) but majority defines the culture and the bar, so unfortunately that is the case here. * secondly for non F, non G companies, I’ve noticed that they can’t accept the fact that Amazon is simply a better (in terms of tech) company than them. For them it’s always G, then F and then them. Probably an ego thing. * thirdly Amazon Indian managers are just awful mostly. A few good ones here and there but mostly they are just bosses and not leaders.
Agree with your points. Specifically 2 on Blind, it has become too easy to dunk on Amazon, to the point where random companies feel they are better than Amazon
I recall interviewing at AMZN in 2012, and reading about how awful of a place it was to work. I met the people in my interview loop and they confirmed: it was awful. So my guess is that it’s been awful for at least ten years.
Not very diverse options you left…..Amazon is A) Shit B) poop Kind of biased, I like Amazon and like any big companies, depends on your org, team, manager and of course….TC
Amazon has been going downhill since the stock has started tanking from previous highs. Before that the stock increase alone acted as golden handcuffs to retain people with good comp but shit work conditions. In fact the stock price would rise so reliably that your estimated comp and offer would bake 15% YOY stock growth. Now that no longer holds
“Retain”…if the company wanted to retain people they would. They want high attrition and have found a way to benefit from misery,
1. A fuck load of TPM to SDM transfer 2. A fuck load of SDEs who think they are top performers but in reality they are not (Dunning-Kruger)
Curious to hear fairly tenured Amazon employees' POV too