Is it Tesla? Waymo? Cruise? Waymo already has service in Phoenix (but still with safety driver), and Cruise is apparently pretty advanced with their testing in San Francisco. I heard that Tesla is pretty advanced and they're working on Uber-like service with Tesla cars as well. Who is most likely to get to full TAAS or level 4/5 autonomy without safety drivers? #auto
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Anyone who don't solely rely on camera computer vision has the lead.
Why is it so? I heard that camera centric approach of Tesla has advantages of lower cost per vehicle. Is this wrong?
Lower cost...if it works, which it won’t. Computer vision alone is not going to “solve” self driving for a very very long time. Much more practical to use the most advanced sensors you can buy/make and get self driving working first.
None of them. Self driving will never happen. Only Tesla has an edge here because it is a practical driver assist system.
Tesla? I like your sense of humor.
Literally everyone has driver assist. Some even offer hands free which is a step beyond Tesla
Anyone who thinks Tesla as a leader in self driving space really knows nothing about it. The true leaders are waymo and cruise . I'm not counting Chinese companies like. Baidu, autoX etc. Tesla is no where close to an L4 system. They're hardly a L3 system. Please don't fall for the propaganda.
Lots of Jonh Snows out there
Kind of making sense.
Are we seriously the leader or are we just good at marketing? I’d hate to see where other non-leaders are at if so
You think Cruise is lagging? When is cruise likely to launch their service commercially?
We're definitely 1st or 2nd out of the pure AV companies. CA DMV metrics aren't a great comparison but they can give you some idea of the relative positioning of companies.
Make a poll
Believe the reddit posts. Definitely Tesla.
You must also be believing in wall street bets!
Most AV teams are burning money like crazy with zero revenue in the foreseeable future. One year from now, at least half will run out of money and die or sold at bargain prices. That's my prediction.
I don’t think anyone will buy them... nobody will want to continue funding these programs.
Not 1 year but maybe 2 years. There'll surely be either consolidation or shutting down. Btw, L5 could be one of those programs. :)
It’s a funding game in the end. Only AV companies that are properly backed up financially over the long run will succeed. Convince me otherwise. So over the next 10+ years I have Waymo (backed by Alphabet), Zoox (backed by Amazon) and Tesla (backed by Tesla) in my top.
Cruise backed by GM and Argo backed by Ford/VW - just curious to know why you did not included them in your list ?
GM and Ford/VW are smaller cap companies compared to trillion dollar cap companies like Alphabet and Amazon. Big tech companies will be able to generate more revenue to flow back into AV than companies like GM and Ford/VW who already need their revenues to expand their primary business. Tesla is already starting to dominate the other automakers and GM, Ford and VW will also have that financial distraction to handle throughout the years, moving to EV. So really boils down to Waymo, Zoox and Tesla, as mentioned above.
Not sure why ppl are so hype about Tesla... Ask anyone in the industry and you know they’re a joke in self-driving... thanks to Elon’s Twitter, lmao
@ghastast Exactly. It's one more proof what propaganda and hype can get you. I don't know what makes people think Tesla is such a leader in AV space.
Tesla is a leader in consumer driver assist space. Unfortunately, that has been conflated with self driving by every news and automotive blogger in the world. Even the basic Tesla autopilot leaves a lot to be desired, need to nudge steering wheel every half a minute or so, super annoying. Just to get basic traffic aware cruise control with lane keep to work.
Thanks Can you point me to source of this information? How recent it is?
lmgtfy https://www.autonomousvehicletech.com/articles/2399-navigant-research-recognizes-four-leaders-in-the-development-of-automated-driving-systems